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Old 10-22-2018, 04:56 PM  
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The Myth that Nelson Sucks

Simply put, it’s wrong.

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#Chiefs CB Steven Nelson (92.7 PFF Overall Grade) was
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Over the past six games, Nelson has only allowed 264 yards while being targeted 42 times.

He’s having a pretty good season, and at least half of CP thinks he sucks. It’s a shame.
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Old 10-23-2018, 08:46 AM   #61
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It’s just so rare that I’ve seen Nelson make a play where he doesn’t look outmatched. Most plays I see him on look like pass interference, and he succeeds when refs don’t call it. Encouraging to see a good PFF grade, and obviously he isn’t getting burned too badly, so maybe my perception is wrong.
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Old 10-23-2018, 08:48 AM   #62
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I know he had a pick 6 on Sunday, but my god how awful of angles does Parker take? Like 3 times he takes a bad angle that gives up 20 plus extra yards.

Jesus.
Parker has been abysmal. The Pick 6 was fun, but he's constantly out of position. I thought he was gambling to make up for some decline in footspeed but at this point I think the opposite is true. Gambling would be giving him credit for realizing he's not as fast as he used to be.

I think he simply has no idea that he's a step slower. You watch how frequently guys just defeat his angle and it looks like he's just surprised that he didn't get there sooner.

I still don't think you can put Murray and Lucas out there without Parker's veteran understanding of the coverage. But man, if Sorensen or Berry (Hahahahahaha!!!) ever make it back, I'd have to take Parker off the field. He's just not getting it done and he's turning 5-6 yard plays into 18-20 yard plays a couple of times/gm.
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Old 10-23-2018, 08:51 AM   #63
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Itís just so rare that Iíve seen Nelson make a play where he doesnít look outmatched. Most plays I see him on look like pass interference, and he succeeds when refs donít call it. Encouraging to see a good PFF grade, and obviously he isnít getting burned too badly, so maybe my perception is wrong.
Scandrick is the same way. So was Ty Law back in his day.

The 'physical' brand of corners always play like that, especially when they're in man coverage. There's very little sexy about playing man - that's just like riding a bull. You really are just hanging on for dear life and waiting for the buzzer to sound.

Being ugly but effective is all you can ask of anyone but maybe the top 6-8 cover guys in the league. Zone coverage is different; you can read and react - hopefully cut under some routes and make plays that look like you saw them coming all the way. But that's just not a reasonable expectation in man.
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Old 10-23-2018, 08:53 AM   #64
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He made a tackle the other night, and coming down got hit in the balls. Poor guy was in pain for about 10 minutes, and I felt bad for laughing. But between plays it looked like he was going to die. He showed up between the snap and the whistle, but I'm telling you I thought he was going to take a knee at one point.
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Old 10-23-2018, 08:55 AM   #65
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He made a tackle the other night, and coming down got hit in the balls. Poor guy was in pain for about 10 minutes, and I felt bad for laughing. But between plays it looked like he was going to die. He showed up between the snap and the whistle, but I'm telling you I thought he was going to take a knee at one point.
Is that what happened? I remember it - he was in a crouch when the play ended and looked like he was trying to stretch out. Then he kept stomping his right foot, even right up to the snap. I thought his groin had grabbed on him because he was obviously uncomfortable.
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Old 10-23-2018, 08:58 AM   #66
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Old 10-23-2018, 09:00 AM   #67
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Parker has been abysmal. The Pick 6 was fun, but he's constantly out of position. I thought he was gambling to make up for some decline in footspeed but at this point I think the opposite is true. Gambling would be giving him credit for realizing he's not as fast as he used to be.

I think he simply has no idea that he's a step slower. You watch how frequently guys just defeat his angle and it looks like he's just surprised that he didn't get there sooner.

I still don't think you can put Murray and Lucas out there without Parker's veteran understanding of the coverage. But man, if Sorensen or Berry (Hahahahahaha!!!) ever make it back, I'd have to take Parker off the field. He's just not getting it done and he's turning 5-6 yard plays into 18-20 yard plays a couple of times/gm.
Put Murray and Lucas out there. It can't be worse. He's awful. He was a necessary evil early, but now, just no.

I don't know if they'll just outright cut him when the other 2 (1) comes back but they should.
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He made a tackle the other night, and coming down got hit in the balls. Poor guy was in pain for about 10 minutes, and I felt bad for laughing. But between plays it looked like he was going to die. He showed up between the snap and the whistle, but I'm telling you I thought he was going to take a knee at one point.
Sully, where you been? Haven't seen you post in a while.
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Old 10-23-2018, 09:03 AM   #69
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Parker has been abysmal. The Pick 6 was fun, but he's constantly out of position. I thought he was gambling to make up for some decline in footspeed but at this point I think the opposite is true. Gambling would be giving him credit for realizing he's not as fast as he used to be.

I think he simply has no idea that he's a step slower. You watch how frequently guys just defeat his angle and it looks like he's just surprised that he didn't get there sooner.

I still don't think you can put Murray and Lucas out there without Parker's veteran understanding of the coverage. But man, if Sorensen or Berry (Hahahahahaha!!!) ever make it back, I'd have to take Parker off the field. He's just not getting it done and he's turning 5-6 yard plays into 18-20 yard plays a couple of times/gm.
It's obvious why they tried to move on from him yet having 5 safeties get injured and here we are...
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Contract year and is average.

In today’s nfl, average corners are very valuable.

If we don’t extend him, he will get a surprising FA contract somewhere. More than most think.

That’s a huge reason Veach needs to go get Patrick Peterson...the difference between Nelson and Petersonis probably only gonna be like 4m per.
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Old 10-23-2018, 10:33 AM   #71
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Is that what happened? I remember it - he was in a crouch when the play ended and looked like he was trying to stretch out. Then he kept stomping his right foot, even right up to the snap. I thought his groin had grabbed on him because he was obviously uncomfortable.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure. It seemed pretty obvious when he got up from the pile he had gotten hit in the dingaling.
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I'm around. Don't feel inclined to post much the past few years. Pick my spots, and all...
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It’s just so rare that I’ve seen Nelson make a play where he doesn’t look outmatched. Most plays I see him on look like pass interference, and he succeeds when refs don’t call it. Encouraging to see a good PFF grade, and obviously he isn’t getting burned too badly, so maybe my perception is wrong.
Aside from the fact that everyone on CP seems to agree PFF is worthless - (except in this one instance where they support my preconceived notions...)

I get that people are searching, wishing, and hoping for anything that might be a sign the defense can rise to the level of being somewhat competitive, and that we aren't doomed to a one and done again this year.

Berry will come back, we just need to fire Sutton and everything will be fine, we'll make a a trade, etc...

The homeristic trend now seems to be back, after passable games against struggling offenses in the Jaguars and Bengals, to claim the defense isn't really that bad and that we'll play home games in the postseason and the D will show up.

Well... it's possible but they only looked decent in two very poorly quarterbacked games. Those aren't the kind of QBs who are going to come calling in the postseason. (Heck they didn't even have enough to handle Marcus Mariotta last year, when they were better)

Nothing fundamental has changed about the red carpet defense in the past three days. They've been lit up by every quality offense they have played. They just don't have the horses.
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I know he had a pick 6 on Sunday, but my god how awful of angles does Parker take? Like 3 times he takes a bad angle that gives up 20 plus extra yards.

Jesus.
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