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Old 11-14-2005, 09:28 AM  
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Herm to KC?
discussed this morning on Mike & Mike and Mort a few times. Still all speculation but compensation would need to be made to the Jets, which would more than likely be draft picks. Herm still has 3-4 years on his current contract, so dropping a 1st or 2nd was discussed. Am I the only one not comfortable dropping a 1st or 2nd on this guy?

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Herman Edwards
Pro Career: On Jan. 28, 2001, Edwards was named the Jets’ 13th full-time head coach. Edwards previously served as the assistant head coach-defensive backs coach for Tampa Bay (1996-2000).

Last season, Edwards guided the Jets to the postseason for the third time in his four seasons at the helm. He is the only coach in Jets history with three trips to the postseason.

In 2002, the Jets won the AFC East and posted the biggest postseason victory (41-0) in club history. In 2001, he led the Jets to a 10-6 regular-season mark and became the first head coach in team history to make the playoffs in his first season.

Before joining Tampa Bay, Edwards worked for the Kansas City Chiefs for six seasons (1990-95) in several different roles. He began his pro coaching career as a participant of the NFL’s Minority Coaching Fellowship program with the Kansas City Chiefs in the summer of 1989.

Career record: 37-32.

Background: Played cornerback collegiately for California (1972, 1974), Monterey Peninsula (Calif.) J.C. (1973), and San Diego State (1975-76). Played in NFL for Philadelphia Eagles (1977-1985), Los Angeles Rams (1986), and Atlanta Falcons (1986). He was defensive backs coach at San Jose State (1987-89).

Personal: Born Apr. 27, 1954, Monmouth, N.J. Edwards and his wife Lia have one son, Marcus.


Assistant Coaches

Sal Alosi - asst. director of physical development; born May 11, 1977, Massapequa, N.Y. Linebacker Hofstra 1996-2000. No pro playing experience. College coach: Hofstra 2001. Pro coach: Joined Jets in 2002.

Jeremy Bates - quarterbacks; born August 27, 1976, Manhattan, Kan. Quarterback Tennessee 1995, Rice 1996-99. No pro playing experience. Pro coach: Tampa Bay 2002-04, joined Jets in 2005.

Tim Berbenich - offensive assistant; born December 19, 1979, Huntington, N.Y. Wide receiver Hamilton College 1998-2001. No pro playing experience. Pro coach: Joined Jets in 2003.

Corwin Brown - defensive backs; born April 25, 1970, Chicago. Safety Michigan 1989-1992. Pro safety New England Patriots 1993-96, New York Jets 1997-98, Detroit Lions 1999-2000. College coach: Virginia 2001-03. Pro coach: Joined Jets in 2004.

Dick Curl - asst. to the head coach/running backs; born May 4, 1940, Chester, Pa. Quarterback Richmond 1959-1962. No pro playing experience. College coach: Trenton State 1973-74 (head coach 1974), Rutgers 1975-79, 1982-88, Virginia 1980-81, Boston College 1989-1990. Pro coach: Barcelona Dragons (NFLEL) 1991-97, Frankfurt Galaxy (NFLEL) 1998-99 (head coach), joined Jets in 2003.

Pep Hamilton - wide receivers; born September 19, 1974, Charlotte. Quarterback Howard 1993-96. No pro playing experience. College coach: Howard 1997-2002. Pro coach: Joined Jets in 2003.

Mike Heimerdinger - offensive coordinator, born October 13, 1952, DeKalb, Ill. Wide receiver Eastern Illinois 1970-74. No pro playing experience. College coach: Florida 1980, Air Force 1981, North Texas State 1982, Florida 1983-87, Cal State-Fullerton 1988, Rice 1989-1993, Duke 1994. Pro coach: Denver Broncos 1995-99, Tennessee Titans 2000-04, joined Jets in 2005.

Donnie Henderson - defensive coordinator; born May 17, 1957, Baltimore. Defensive back Utah State 1978-79. No pro playing experience. College coach: Utah State 1983-88, Idaho 1989-90, California 1992-97, Houston 1998. Pro coach: Baltimore Ravens 1999-2003, joined Jets in 2004.

Denny Marcin - defensive line; born April 24, 1942, Cleveland. Defensive-offensive lineman Miami (Ohio) 1961-64. No pro playing experience. College coach: Miami (Ohio) 1974-77, North Carolina 1978-1987, Illinois 1988-1996. Pro coach: New York Giants 1997-2003, joined Jets in 2004.

Doug Marrone - offensive line; born July 25, 1964, Bronx, N.Y. Offensive lineman Syracuse 1982-86. Pro offensive lineman Miami Dolphins 1987, New Orleans Saints 1989, London Monarchs (NFLE) 1992. College coach: Cortland State 1992, U.S. Coast Guard 1993, Northeastern 1994, Georgia Tech 1995-99, Georgia 2000, Tennessee 2001. Pro coach: Joined Jets in 2002.

Chris Mattura - defensive assistant; born February 2, 1960, New York City. Attended SUNY Regents. No college or pro playing experience. College coach: Hofstra 1985, Fordham 1989-1991, C.W. Post 1992-95. Pro coach: Joined Jets in 2002.

Markus Paul - director of physical development; born April 1, 1966, Orlando, Fla. Safety Syracuse 1984-88. Pro safety Chicago Bears 1989-1993, Tampa Bay Buccaneers 1993. Pro coach: New Orleans Saints 1998-99, New England Patriots 2000-04, joined Jets in 2005.

Bob Sutton - linebackers; born January 28, 1951, Ypsilanti, Mich. Attended Eastern Michigan. No college or pro playing experience. College coach: Michigan 1972-73, Syracuse 1974, Western Michigan 1975-76, 1980-81, Illinois 1977-79, North Carolina State 1982, Army 1983-1999 (head coach 1991-99). Pro coach: Joined Jets in 2000.

Nate Wainwright - asst. coach; born July 28, 1975, Iowa City, Iowa. Attended Iowa. No college or pro playing experience. Pro coach: Joined Jets in 2001.

Mike Westhoff - asst. head coach/special teams coordinator; born January 10, 1948, Pittsburgh. Center/linebacker Wichita State 1967-69. No pro playing experience. College coach: Indiana 1974-75, Dayton 1976, Indiana State 1977, Northwestern 1978-1980, Texas Christian 1981. Pro coach: Baltimore/Indianapolis Colts 1982-84, Arizona Outlaws (USFL) 1985, Miami Dolphins 1986-2000, joined Jets in 2001.

John Zernhelt - tight ends, born January 4, 1954, Pottsville, Pa. Offensive lineman. Maryland 1974-77. No pro playing experience. College coach: Ferrum 1977-1980, Marshall 1981, East Carolina 1982-86, Maryland 1987-1991, Rice 1992-93, Duke 1994-95, South Carolina 1996-98, James Madison 1999-2002, The Citadel 2003-04. Pro coach: Joined Jets in 2005.
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Old 11-14-2005, 10:29 AM   #46
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Oh wow Cochise, the Chiefs have torn up the league at home in the playoffs. Does 13-3 and 1 and done ring a bell?
You're the moron who thinks we have some delusion of playoff superiority as Chiefs fans. No one here said we had done better. I just said we didn't want a perrenial playoff choker. We already had Marty. We don't need one of his clones.

You act like Cowher is some proven playoff coach. He has a LOSING record in the postseason. Look it up, assclamp.
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Old 11-14-2005, 10:29 AM   #47
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Yeah - I'm trying to figure out what team this turd is a fan of. Is this a 49ers fan, or what?
5for5SB is a Randy Cross clone. He posts about the Chiefs on this site as objectively as the master (of squirting horsey sauce) called yesterday's game.

It's all about liking to listen to yourself talk, isn't it, 5for5SOB? Tune shim him out.
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Old 11-14-2005, 10:31 AM   #48
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Yeah yeah, we all heard the stories about going after Barry Sanders years ago. Same old song and dance every year. Bottom line, this organization is sorry and you will never, ever win with Carl Peterson.
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Old 11-14-2005, 10:32 AM   #49
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5for5SB is a Randy Cross clone. He posts about the Chiefs on this site as objectively as the master (of squirting horsey sauce) called yesterday's game.

It's all about liking to listen to yourself talk, isn't it, 5for5SOB? Tune shim him out.
You know, I used to hate listening to Randy Cross. But I don't think he's been that bad this year. Actually, I think he's been pretty fair to the Chiefs considering what they've done this year. Just MO.
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Does he have a chew can stain on his game pants?

Does he have Corky on the back of his jersey?
Don't be jealous that the kid in the picture gets to take his helmet off sometimes and you had to wear yours around 24/7.
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Old 11-14-2005, 10:33 AM   #51
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That might just be, but he did go to a SB and he has been to the AFC championship as early as last year.
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Yeah yeah, we all heard the stories about going after Barry Sanders years ago. Same old song and dance every year. Bottom line, this organization is sorry and you will never, ever win with Carl Peterson.
Hello, stupid ass. In case you didn't notice, a lot of Chiefs fans have said this about CP. Many Chiefs fans here want CP gone yesterday. Frankly, I would be happy if both he and Vermeil were gone after this season. I'm ready for a fresh start.
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Talk all you want about owning the Raiders or having the most wins in the 90's or the best tailgating in football. It doesn't mean shit if you can't even win a football game, or if your GM keeps hosing draft picks.
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That might just be, but he did go to a SB and he has been to the AFC championship as early as last year.
So, is it safe to assume that you're a Steelers fan?
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Don't be jealous that the kid in the picture gets to take his helmet off sometimes and you had to wear yours around 24/7.

This coming from a guy with anime for his picture. I bet the ladies are so in love with you.
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That might just be, but he did go to a SB and he has been to the AFC championship as early as last year.
I thought you didn't like playoff choking? They shit the bed at home in the AFC championship. Cowher and his boys got punked in their own house in the AFC championship - 2004, 2001, 1997. He lost a Super bowl 10 years ago. Big deal. Vermeil has a more impressive resume than he does. I think all the tadpole soup you've been swallowing may be causing some nervous disfunction.
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Talk all you want about owning the Raiders or having the most wins in the 90's or the best tailgating in football. It doesn't mean shit if you can't even win a football game, or if your GM keeps hosing draft picks.
Man, you really are dumb. Chiefs fans, for the most part, realize that we've struggled in the draft. That and the development of those picks. Of course, we have done well with guys like Larry Johnson and Derrick Johnson in recent years. And even Kawika Mitchell has turned out to be a solid 2nd rounder. But CPs history of 2nd round picks has been terrible. That, along with being terrible at picking defensive linemen has been something that pisses off a lot of Chiefs fans.
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No, not a steelers fan. It doesn't matter what team I am a fan of. There are hundreds of you, and one of me. You guys will do the same thing over and over. I have already heard it. Don't think for one second that a new coach is going to change your fortune. Hell, you can bring back Bill Walsh to run the team and have Mike Martz run the O and Buddy Ryan run the D, there isn't enough talent on the team.
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Vermeil hasn't done anything with the Chiefs, so it doesn't matter
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