Misc Conceal Carry weapon choices - Page 4

Holladay · 01-03-2017, 06:50 PM

Probably a re-post, didn't see it after a quick search.

I am buy no means a gun expert but know my way around them (ex-military)

My wife is seriously looking to CC. That thought alone shocked me. She is quite against guns. She is German and with all the issues Germany has now and stuff here in the states, wants to pursue this privilege. I will as well.

Another thought is what is the best way to figure out which states allow. I have surfed the web and it is a bit confusing. She will be house sitting in SC for a month. Thus a long trip by herself through many states. As I understand, KY will prove the hardest state.

I have taken her out in our back 40 to practice. I have a 9mm CZ 75 that I bought while stationed in Germany. It is similar to the Beretta 9mm. She is a natural. The practice and repetition is the key as we all know. It is to big for CC. She will be carrying in her purse..eer er "hand bag" ( I got corrected from a female fashionista).

We are on a budget and not into an elite weapon. Something that goes bang and scares the would be bad guy. I was hoping for less then $400.

We have tried a few different types. Revolver vs Semi. Revolver is simpler but limited ammo. Semi is harder to operate but has more "bangs".

My parents have a Makarov 9x18. I thought it was junk, but find out it is quite decent. It is a Walther PPK variant. Cheap ~$300. I read a review about women and hand guns. The author stated that a point is the strength/size of women's hands. Thus semi is not a good option unless she is a masseuse. I giggled, because she is. Her hands are as big as mine which are medium/large guys paws. She has had a little problem pulling the slide back and on another old (S&W Defender) revolver the trigger squeeze.

I will use the Defender, not necessarily CC, in my car. If I can find ammo for it. That is another problem. The CZ stays at home.

Thoughts?

Delaney37 · 01-03-2017, 10:08 PM

[QUOTE=Easy 6;12659282]No offense intended at all

No worries, none taken

DenverChief · 01-03-2017, 10:11 PM

Personally for the spouse I would look into the following:

Glock 43 9mm 6+1 for a total of 13 -19 rounds depending on how many extra mags you want to carry.

S&W M&P Shield 9mm. 8+1 for a total of 17-25 rounds depending on mags.

S&W M&P Bodyguard .380 6+1

All can be had from $3-400 and are easily concealable and easy to handle for the novice.

DenverChief · 01-03-2017, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

Revolvers have a heavier, longer pull.

Most women don't like that.......in a handgun.

**pr_capone** · 01-03-2017, 10:13 PM

Bersa BP9cc (9mm version)

I love it so much I have two of them. Less than an inch thick, single stack, can be found pretty damn inexpensive, and comes in .380, 9mm, and .40

https://bersa.eagleimportsinc.com/be...d-carry-series

**Easy 6** · 01-03-2017, 10:14 PM

[QUOTE=Delaney37;12659286]

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

No offense intended at all

No worries, none taken

3-4 years ago I did a TON of reading about the "best survival weapons", and all of the articles worth a damn made it clear that it isnt about the caliber... its about what you can HIT with that caliber

A good .22 rifle in the right hands is a deadly instrument, if you have some hot rounds... even better

DenverChief · 01-03-2017, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Delaney37

3-4 years ago I did a TON of reading about the "best survival weapons", and all of the articles worth a damn made it clear that it isnt about the caliber... its about what you can HIT with that caliber

A good .22 rifle in the right hands is a deadly instrument, if you have some hot rounds... even better

Agreed. But In a pressure situation with seconds to make a shot a 22 isn't always effective. If you have all day to make a well placed shot there is no doubt.

dmahurin · 01-03-2017, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief

Personally for the spouse I would look into the following:

Glock 43 9mm 6+1 for a total of 13 -19 rounds depending on how many extra mags you want to carry.

S&W M&P Shield 9mm. 8+1 for a total of 17-25 rounds depending on mags.

S&W M&P Bodyguard .380 6+1

All can be had from $3-400 and are easily concealable and easy to handle for the novice.

Cant go wrong with any of these. What are carrying on duty? Im forced by department policy to carry a glock 23. The compact .40. Can't stand it.

**Easy 6** · 01-03-2017, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief

Agreed. But In a pressure situation with seconds to make a shot a 22 isn't always effective. If you have all day to make a well placed shot there is no doubt.

All true, wouldnt argue against that at all... thats why I would recommend a .38 revolver with hollowpoints for women

Eliminate jams, minimize the kick, maximize the damage

DenverChief · 01-03-2017, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dmahurin

Cant go wrong with any of these. What are carrying on duty? Im forced by department policy to carry a glock 23. The compact .40. Can't stand it.

I carry the 23 as a concealed depending on how I dress. Duty I'm forced to carry the SIG P229.

*EDIT* why don't you like it?

DenverChief · 01-03-2017, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

All true, wouldnt argue against that at all... thats why I would recommend a .38 revolver with hollowpoints for women

Eliminate jams, minimize the kick, maximize the damage

TBH I have never fired a revolver. I'm a semi-auto whore and have always trained with one. The only argument I could make against a revolver is the difficulty in reloading if necessary.

**Easy 6** · 01-03-2017, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief

TBH I have never fired a revolver. I'm a semi-auto whore and have always trained with one. The only argument I could make against a revolver is the difficulty in reloading if necessary.

I hear you about the reloading, but IMHO most (not all) women using a weapon is 90% just to buy herself some time to get away from an imminent threat

I can totally see a woman with minimal firearms training freezing up during a jam, give them something to put the hurt on quick so they can scram

dmahurin · 01-03-2017, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DenverChief

I carry the 23 as a concealed depending on how I dress. Duty I'm forced to carry the SIG P229.

*EDIT* why don't you like it?

My dislike of it is more about liking alternatives better. Not a fan of the .40 round. The gun itself is fine. I wasnt very clear when i said that. Long day today.

DenverChief · 01-03-2017, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dmahurin

My dislike of it is more about liking alternatives better. Not a fan of the .40 round. The gun itself is fine. I wasnt very clear when i said that. Long day today.

Ah I understand. LE is so weird. Some agencies won't even let you carry a .40. .45 or 9mm only. Other agencies (like yours) .40 only.

What would you carry for duty if you could?

dmahurin · 01-03-2017, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief

Ah I understand. LE is so weird. Some agencies won't even let you carry a .40. .45 or 9mm only. Other agencies (like yours) .40 only.

What would you carry for duty if you could?

A glock 19. Huge fan of the current critical duty 9mm rounds. Hornady makes grest stuff. Doing everything I can to get the department to switch. Im a glock armor, NRA pistol instructor and range master, MO LETI instructor for pistol and shotgun. Im making progress on them but no progress around here moves fast.

Holladay · 01-03-2017, 10:55 PM

I live in the middle of nowhere...getting to a range with wife to try all these guns = prolly not and spend $75.

Simple CC, not exotic.

Great info and I am taking notes.

thanks

01-03-2017, 06:50 PM
Holladay Veteran Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $2649480	Conceal Carry weapon choices Probably a re-post, didn't see it after a quick search. I am buy no means a gun expert but know my way around them (ex-military) My wife is seriously looking to CC. That thought alone shocked me. She is quite against guns. She is German and with all the issues Germany has now and stuff here in the states, wants to pursue this privilege. I will as well. Another thought is what is the best way to figure out which states allow. I have surfed the web and it is a bit confusing. She will be house sitting in SC for a month. Thus a long trip by herself through many states. As I understand, KY will prove the hardest state. I have taken her out in our back 40 to practice. I have a 9mm CZ 75 that I bought while stationed in Germany. It is similar to the Beretta 9mm. She is a natural. The practice and repetition is the key as we all know. It is to big for CC. She will be carrying in her purse..eer er "hand bag" ( I got corrected from a female fashionista). We are on a budget and not into an elite weapon. Something that goes bang and scares the would be bad guy. I was hoping for less then $400. We have tried a few different types. Revolver vs Semi. Revolver is simpler but limited ammo. Semi is harder to operate but has more "bangs". My parents have a Makarov 9x18. I thought it was junk, but find out it is quite decent. It is a Walther PPK variant. Cheap ~$300. I read a review about women and hand guns. The author stated that a point is the strength/size of women's hands. Thus semi is not a good option unless she is a masseuse. I giggled, because she is. Her hands are as big as mine which are medium/large guys paws. She has had a little problem pulling the slide back and on another old (S&W Defender) revolver the trigger squeeze. I will use the Defender, not necessarily CC, in my car. If I can find ammo for it. That is another problem. The CZ stays at home. Thoughts?
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01-03-2017, 10:11 PM	#47
DenverChief MVP Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Rocky Ford Casino cash: $5999867	Personally for the spouse I would look into the following: Glock 43 9mm 6+1 for a total of 13 -19 rounds depending on how many extra mags you want to carry. S&W M&P Shield 9mm. 8+1 for a total of 17-25 rounds depending on mags. S&W M&P Bodyguard .380 6+1 All can be had from $3-400 and are easily concealable and easy to handle for the novice.
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01-03-2017, 10:13 PM	#49
pr_capone ** SOC & ** YOU Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chiefs Hell Casino cash: $10018214	Bersa BP9cc (9mm version) I love it so much I have two of them. Less than an inch thick, single stack, can be found pretty damn inexpensive, and comes in .380, 9mm, and .40 https://bersa.eagleimportsinc.com/be...d-carry-series
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01-03-2017, 10:55 PM	#60
Holladay Veteran Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $2649480	I live in the middle of nowhere...getting to a range with wife to try all these guns = prolly not and spend $75. Simple CC, not exotic. Great info and I am taking notes. thanks
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