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Old 10-06-2004, 04:29 PM  
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The Official "Lost" the series discussion
I figured I would start a thread for this and see what happens....there seemed to be quite a few viewers on the board for this show the past few weeks.....I like the direction the show is taking so far......episode 3 tonight at 7 central on ABC....
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Old 05-24-2010, 08:11 AM   #5566
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Old 05-24-2010, 08:13 AM   #5567
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Great ending to LOST. Wasnt what i expected but i was satisfied with it. I think that they were all dead when they "crashed" on the island. And every one of the Losties "died" alone. So the whole island experience and everything was a path they were all destined for, to make connections and get what they were missing out of their lives before they passed on. Even though they were dead, the island was a place where the real world(the living) and the dead could interact and live together. The flash sideways was a world the losties made up, to find each other again before going to the after life. Jack never really had a son, it was made up because of the father issues he had with his father, so in the flash sideways, Jack had a son to be a better father to than his own father was to him. Desmond knew the whole time that the flash sideways wasnt the "real world" and he knew that everyone needed to reconnect to "let go" or "move on"..
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Old 05-24-2010, 08:17 AM   #5568
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He wasnt The physic was exposed as a fraud. Darlton brought that up recently
What about 3 years of not being able to have a baby on the island and the "others" being interested in the baby and Walt and his special powers?
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Old 05-24-2010, 08:24 AM   #5569
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The writers/creators of the show make a huge point of saying that "what happened, happened."

The island was real. That happened. The island at the same time WAS a test. Just like my life or your life is a test (if you believe in a God/afterlife.)

Everyone on the island was given a chance at redemption.

Some took it and some didn't.

To me the point was driven home repeatedly. Perception.

We all perceive time differently. It's an experience different and unique to each person. Individual to each but shared by all. So is life.

All went through trials and tribulations on the island that made them different, and more selfless, people...
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What about 3 years of not being able to have a baby on the island and the "others" being interested in the baby and Walt and his special powers?
And the numbers?

And whats the point of the light? Is there some other point than to power the island in some way?

What about smokey getting off the island? How would that have killed all the losties?
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Old 05-24-2010, 08:31 AM   #5571
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Great ending to LOST. Wasnt what i expected but i was satisfied with it. I think that they were all dead when they "crashed" on the island. And every one of the Losties "died" alone. So the whole island experience and everything was a path they were all destined for, to make connections and get what they were missing out of their lives before they passed on. Even though they were dead, the island was a place where the real world(the living) and the dead could interact and live together. The flash sideways was a world the losties made up, to find each other again before going to the after life. Jack never really had a son, it was made up because of the father issues he had with his father, so in the flash sideways, Jack had a son to be a better father to than his own father was to him. Desmond knew the whole time that the flash sideways wasnt the "real world" and he knew that everyone needed to reconnect to "let go" or "move on"..
Desmond didn't know flash sideways wasn't real until Charlie caused his car to crash into the water.
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Old 05-24-2010, 08:32 AM   #5572
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The Island wasn't purgatory, the Flash Sideways was. The people who died in the story, died in the story. Those who didn't went on to live lives of different duration in stories not shown. For example, Hurley and Ben went on to protect the island for a period as the show stated [you WERE a great #1, and you WERE a great #2]. Eventually, all of them passed on, and it came to Desmond to round them up in purgatory/sideways, and get them to realize that they'd lived another life and move on to 'elsewhere' on the other side of the church doors.

What's kind of disappointing, though, is that all of those epiphanies, all those happy reunions, were for spectral remains, not people on the verge of a reunited life, rather an reunited afterlife. Who knows if in this world if they ever saw each other again.
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Jack has a tender conversation with the man he had clashed with so often before.

"I don't understand," says Jack. "You died."

"Yes, I did."

"Then how are you here right now?"

"How are YOU here?" his father (John Terry) replies.

"I died, too," says Jack, beginning to weep.

"That's OK, son."

And yet it's all real, his father assures him.

"Everything that's ever happened to you is real. All those people in the church, they're all real, too."

"They're all dead?" Jack asks.

"Everyone dies sometime, kiddo," his father replies gently.
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Old 05-24-2010, 08:42 AM   #5574
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While I disagree with Dane's interpretation, it is my understanding that the camera focusing on Jack's eye lends credence to that idea.

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This is not the case. Sorry even Darlton said so Another thing did you miss what is father said to him at the end? People dying before him and after him? Darlton gave a hint a awhile back THINK MATRIX

Everything happened on the island was real.
Well, except that a lot of Matrix fans think that the "real world" portions of the trilogy were actually in a second Matrix because of things like Neo seeing in code in "reality."
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And the numbers?
Everything is connected.

Repeating patterns. The numbers were connected. The people were connected. All those numbers represented people and all those people needed each other (like all the numbers being together to win the lottery) to move on.

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And whats the point of the light? Is there some other point than to power the island in some way?
Goodness.

God.

The light is always what allows you to fight off the darkness. Pick the symbolism you like best.

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What about smokey getting off the island? How would that have killed all the losties?
The MIB was invulnerable, could mimic the look of anyone, and could turn into smoke and **** $#it up at a whim.

Why WOULDN'T that be a bad thing to loose upon the world?...
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Old 05-24-2010, 08:53 AM   #5576
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While I disagree with Dane's interpretation, it is my understanding that the camera focusing on Jack's eye lends credence to that idea.
The opening eye was always an allusion to perception.

His change/understanding/final outlook on his perceptions were complete. He was done.
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The opening eye was always an allusion to perception.

His change/understanding/final outlook on his perceptions were complete. He was done.
Not to be a stickler for details but when people die their eyes don't close.
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Old 05-24-2010, 09:23 AM   #5578
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One thing I'm a bit confused about is the significance (or non-significance, if you will) of Jack's son. He only existed in the "purgatory" realm, and Juliet was his mother, and Juliet and Jack seemed happily married, and then BOOM there's Sawyer and Juliet making out by the candy machine and the kid's just gone.

Was the kid just a reflection of Jack's desire to have a normal life? Or Juliet's? While watching I wondered if the kid would end up being an older version of Aaron, but that didn't happen.

I'm so confused.



Great ending, though.
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Rumor is the Eko was supposed to be in the finale, but wanted 5x what they were offering him....


http://lostmediamentions.blogspot.co...uest-spot.html


Ahh hell, it's not a spoiler anymore.....



Why didn't Mr. Eko come back?

It's one of the most asked questions about Lost's final season. After all, everyone else returned! So what gives?

Sources tell me exclusively:

Lost's Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje--who played the iconic Mr. Eko--was offered a guest spot in last night's Lost series finale, but he...wait for it...turned it down.

According to ABC and Lost insiders, Adewale was offered a hearty sum to do one scene in the last hurrah, but the actor wanted five times the amount that was offered. It didn't work out.

How and where would Adewale have popped up in the finale? I guess we'll never know, but he was definitely loved by many fans before his character's demise.

Eko (a warlord who pretended to be a priest in order to smuggle drugs) was the fifth character to die on Lost, after facing the Smoke Monster for a second time and getting attacked, and then telling Locke, "I saw the devil."

Producers have said their original plan was for Mr. Eko to stay on the show four seasons, but they released Adewale from his contract after only one season because he wanted off the Island.
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One thing I'm a bit confused about is the significance (or non-significance, if you will) of Jack's son. He only existed in the "purgatory" realm, and Juliet was his mother, and Juliet and Jack seemed happily married, and then BOOM there's Sawyer and Juliet making out by the candy machine and the kid's just gone.

Was the kid just a reflection of Jack's desire to have a normal life? Or Juliet's? While watching I wondered if the kid would end up being an older version of Aaron, but that didn't happen.

I'm so confused.



Great ending, though.
I don't think the point to that was Juliette, I believe it was Jack's desire to have a good relationship with a son, like he never had with his father. The whole Juliette and Jack part was irrelevant. He loved Kate, so he and Julliette , though father and mother to the son, wasn't relevant to the point.

Just my thought.
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