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Old 06-29-2013, 06:23 PM  
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Spinoff of the woman getting beaten in her home. That thread got me thinking, and I wondered what everyone had to protect their loved ones/family. I have an ADT security system with motion detectors, I also have two pitbulls, both the wife and I have numerous firearms and have taken firearm training.

That thread really made me more content paying $50 a month for 24/7 monitoring/protection of my family and home.
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Old 06-30-2013, 10:45 AM   #76
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Old 06-30-2013, 10:56 AM   #77
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Old 06-30-2013, 11:02 AM   #79
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Old 06-30-2013, 11:35 AM   #80
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Simplisafe security system (24.95 monitoring) + Multiple firearms.. Always a gun within hands reach when sleeping...
Free installation with that company?

$25 a month is reasonable.
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Old 06-30-2013, 11:50 AM   #81
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I've got an honest question for all of those who like having a gun around for home defense, and I promise there's no ulterior motive here - I'm just curious about the thought process.

As I've mentioned a couple times in this thread, the stats are pretty clear that you increase the likelihood that you or a family member will be shot just by having a gun in the house (even when controlled for training, storage, etc.). Here's a decent article that discusses all of the possible reasons why if you're interested.

As I'm sure many of you have noticed, I'm a numbers guy, so the stats make it a pretty clear choice for me. But for those who prefer to have a gun around, what's the logic? It seems that any of these are plausible rationalizations:

1. Most people aren't as careful as I am
2. I'd rather go down shooting than be unable to defend myself
3. The studies are wrong/biased/etc.

Am I on track with the above? Are there other reasons I'm not thinking of?
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Old 06-30-2013, 11:54 AM   #82
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Free installation with that company?

$25 a month is reasonable.
You install it yourself, it's wireless and you own it runs off internal cellular and/or home phone... but no home phone is needed...

turn it on and off by your phone
get alerts when it is turned on or off or when it goes off

I love the system, trip the alarm and your phone will be ringing, Don't answer it or give them a wrong password and the cops are on the way
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Old 06-30-2013, 11:57 AM   #83
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I've got an honest question for all of those who like having a gun around for home defense, and I promise there's no ulterior motive here - I'm just curious about the thought process.

As I've mentioned a couple times in this thread, the stats are pretty clear that you increase the likelihood that you or a family member will be shot just by having a gun in the house (even when controlled for training, storage, etc.). Here's a decent article that discusses all of the possible reasons why if you're interested.

As I'm sure many of you have noticed, I'm a numbers guy, so the stats make it a pretty clear choice for me. But for those who prefer to have a gun around, what's the logic? It seems that any of these are plausible rationalizations:

1. Most people aren't as careful as I am
2. I'd rather go down shooting than be unable to defend myself
3. The studies are wrong/biased/etc.

Am I on track with the above? Are there other reasons I'm not thinking of?
2....

You are more likely to get in a wreck if you own a car or ride in one too
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Old 06-30-2013, 11:57 AM   #84
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Old 06-30-2013, 12:03 PM   #85
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The main thing you need is a few seconds to prevent a sneak attack

two ways to get into the house (besides windows which you will be able to hear breakage)
Garage and front door...

When my alarm is set in home and away mode I have motion sensors in the garage and plus door sensors.

When I am away at night or go to sleep a door knob security bar is on the front door


This will not keep someone from getting in but should slow them down.

Also have a door wedge alarm


The purpose is to gain a few extra critical seconds.

+ I have a trained attack dog .. No one gets close to the house unannounced when you have a Terrier



Also have a Simplisafe Panic Button installed on backside of headboard, cops are automatically dispatched without a call from the call center
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Old 06-30-2013, 12:04 PM   #86
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You are more likely to get in a wreck if you own a car or ride in one too
Well, sure, but the car adds additional value (transportation), while the gun's primary purpose (self preservation) is of questionable benefit in the first place based on the research. Thus, my question about what the logic is.

Your selection of #2 is perfectly valid, though. I can understand that.
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Old 06-30-2013, 12:04 PM   #87
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I've got an honest question for all of those who like having a gun around for home defense, and I promise there's no ulterior motive here - I'm just curious about the thought process.

As I've mentioned a couple times in this thread, the stats are pretty clear that you increase the likelihood that you or a family member will be shot just by having a gun in the house (even when controlled for training, storage, etc.). Here's a decent article that discusses all of the possible reasons why if you're interested.

As I'm sure many of you have noticed, I'm a numbers guy, so the stats make it a pretty clear choice for me. But for those who prefer to have a gun around, what's the logic? It seems that any of these are plausible rationalizations:

1. Most people aren't as careful as I am
2. I'd rather go down shooting than be unable to defend myself
3. The studies are wrong/biased/etc.

Am I on track with the above? Are there other reasons I'm not thinking of?
I keep a loaded 12 gauge assault shotgun by my bed. It holds 8 3" Mag rounds but I only keep seven in the gun, There isn't one in the chamber, all I do is give it a pump and that's take care of. I have a very bright flashlight/laser with a finger switch on the gun where you hold your hand when jacking shells in and out. My dirtbag load of choice is number one Buck.

I don't worry about stats. The only stat I worry about is the size of hole I blow through the lowlife that breaks into my house.
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I've got an honest question for all of those who like having a gun around for home defense, and I promise there's no ulterior motive here - I'm just curious about the thought process.

As I've mentioned a couple times in this thread, the stats are pretty clear that you increase the likelihood that you or a family member will be shot just by having a gun in the house (even when controlled for training, storage, etc.). Here's a decent article that discusses all of the possible reasons why if you're interested.

As I'm sure many of you have noticed, I'm a numbers guy, so the stats make it a pretty clear choice for me. But for those who prefer to have a gun around, what's the logic? It seems that any of these are plausible rationalizations:

1. Most people aren't as careful as I am
2. I'd rather go down shooting than be unable to defend myself
3. The studies are wrong/biased/etc.

Am I on track with the above? Are there other reasons I'm not thinking of?

2. I am not a big fan of being at a disadvantage. And even less of a fan of being a victim.
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Well, sure, but the car adds additional value (transportation), while the gun's primary purpose (self preservation) is of questionable benefit in the first place based on the research. Thus, my question about what the logic is.

Your selection of #2 is perfectly valid, though. I can understand that.

The gun offers the added value of shooting, which many people very much enjoy.
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