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Old 10-08-2000, 06:40 PM  
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Several times today during the game a Faiduh would make a hit and talk, push, or taunt the 49ers. I know it's football and it's supposed to be violent, but do they have to be disrespectful on EVERY play. Man, I hope we CRUSH these thugs!!!

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Old 10-12-2000, 02:07 PM   #16
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Point of information Pitt, exactly what indescretion has Rison done IN a Raider uni?..
I am far from a Dre fan, but he has done what has been asked of him in Oakland. We knew of his rep as did Peterson know of Bams and Vanover.

I could really care less of the thug perception. The reality is football is a violent game played by violent, aggressive men.... If a player can talk and back that talk up, more power to him.... Jordan did it, Bird did it, Namath did it and now Sapp does it....

Theres a football adage that goes football players should be Ag-ile, Mo-bile and Hos-tile.... there is no cor-dial in there....
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Old 10-12-2000, 02:25 PM   #17
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Lamar's son is NOT a pedophile. He had sexual relations with that woman, his reeruned sister-in-law. However, she was of age. Question his judgement & scruples all day long, however, he didn't molest a youngster.....

Also, you've forgotten some of the other alleged crimes Rison has committed and you've left Dale Carter out.
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Old 10-12-2000, 02:46 PM   #18
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HB,

Bam came to KC with a reputation, and a criminal record.

Rison came to Oakland with a reputation, and [b]CHARGES PENDING[/b]

Spin it anyway you like, but you can't escape it.

[i]Just win baby![/i]

PS: How dare you EVER use Jordan or Bird in the same topic as Rison. There's ABSOLUTELY no comparison...

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Old 10-12-2000, 03:02 PM   #19
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htis...

How DARE I? A little condescending there huh? Maybe you should reread everything... NOWHERE did I compare Rison to Bird/Jordan etc..

Two seperate subjects:
1)Rison's criminal activities while a Raider. Bams etc..

2)Complains about trashtalking and backing it up hence the Bird & Jordan references.

Charges pending yes.... conviction no... innocent till proven guilty, remember?
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Old 10-12-2000, 03:29 PM   #20
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Innocent until proven guilty? Sure, I believe that, especially in cases where you rely on witness testimony.

But since they have [b]pieces of paper called checks[/b] in this case, I find it hard to give Brock the benefit of the doubt.

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Old 10-12-2000, 05:40 PM   #21
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What do ya want em to do??? curtsy after a sack?? This is Football!! As for penalties, when a player commits a foul, the team is penalized....then it's over and back to the game.

Jon Gruden has cleaned out all the bad attitudes from this team. Pushed Chester "the Cancer" McClockton off on you.
I've never seen a "team" that quibbles and fights amongst itself as much as your misfits. You don't have a team, you have a feild of individuals.
As far as the owners son, most of these types of behavior are learned at home.

BTW- I see I'm not the only Raider fan who stops in here. How's the Raider Nation of this board doing?? Anybody from "The Gate"?

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Old 10-13-2000, 07:37 AM   #22
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John Gruden, this, John Gruden, that...

Whatever...like he has any say...

Al is in charge there, and the bad attitudes are gone?

What about Brock?

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Old 10-13-2000, 09:27 AM   #23
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Ref #10,

"and currantly resides the top of the AFC west,which I believe means that nice guy's dont finish first........."

Man I wish I had a $50 for everytime that happened, course we have to count MIDSEASON records, not year records right?


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Old 10-13-2000, 11:28 AM   #24
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That's right....Jon Gruden. The man is good. Still makes young mistakes but time will cure that. If I had a coach named Gunther, I wouldn't be talking so much. The guy is just a quitter.
GruDog has plenty of say. Now, I'm not stupid, I know Al still has his hands on the team but he seems to be allowing Gruden full range.
Attitudes.... yes, They're gone. This is a TEAM.
Brock? What's a Brock?

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Old 10-13-2000, 12:10 PM   #25
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MadStork:

HB, Corporate, those guys at least know their stuff. I can respect that. You're either horribly misinformed, or an idiot.

I'll dismiss your comment about Gunther. 12 year olds generally make fun of people's names. And GruDog? Do you go drinking with the guy? Is he one of your "homies"? Give it a rest. You don't know anymore about John Gruden than anybody else around here, and concensus around the league is that he is a good coach with a bad temper. Lots of people hope he will outgrow that, and for good reason.

TEAM? Did you not read what TIM BROWN, the best player on your TEAM, said about Andre Ris...err, Brock Middlebrook? I guess people with charges pending aren't considered problems in Raiduh-land...

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Old 10-13-2000, 12:15 PM   #26
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Mad Dork...

What in the h@!! are you saying? If you are going to talk football, at least come with some fact or reasonable oppinion..

Gunther and the boys are going to send your b!TCH@$$ team home with their tails between their legs....your @$$e$ will be handed to you.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you aren't ignorant...I'll just blame it on a cronic case of cranial-rectal inversion...cuts off O2 and limits your normal thought process.....but I guess a faiduh fan can't help it...
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Old 10-13-2000, 01:46 PM   #27
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Exactly WHAT did Gunther quit? Are you referring to the fact that he quit allowing criminals to represent our team? Maybe you are speaking to the fact that he quit acting like a child at the age of six. (Grudog has still has some growing up to do) You tell me!

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Old 10-13-2000, 03:07 PM   #28
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I think he means he QUIT letting ol' Bad Check Rison lose games for us... is that what ya' meant MadStork???
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Old 10-13-2000, 03:47 PM   #29
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Well there is always hope.

Perhaps with a nose to the grindstone attitude.
Some special government funded classes.
A dash of holy water.
A prayer from the Mahatma, and a great deal of time, then maybe, just maybe they could become classy morons.
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Old 10-13-2000, 05:33 PM   #30
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Htismaqe- 1st off.... on Gunther... I wasn't trying to bash his name, although, I can see by the way I wrote it you might think so. I was just trying to refer to the fact that he stated, after only one game, the possiblity of his quitting his post.

next..........
what the hell is wrong with "Grudog"?? You act like I'm the only person who ever gave a guy a nickname. Also, your acting like a pompus *** with your drinking and "homie" questions. And I'm sure every team in the league called you personally to give you their take on Gruden. Like I said before, the guy gets a little emotional. So what? Is he the only one? I think not. Did you ever see Bill Cohwer(?) of Pittsburgh?

Finally, ..... Yes...TEAM. And no, apparently I missed a comment by T.Brown. Care to inform me on what it was?

Oops...one more thing. And I hope I'm not jumping the gun here but.....
Why is it every board has someone like you, who thinks he knows more about everything than everyone else? Who tries to make himself look like a big man by trying to make others look bad? Get off your high horse and just answer the question next time. Ok, Great one?

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