Chiefs Not spending money in free agency - Page 3

lcarus · 09-13-2011, 10:24 AM

We know the Chiefs have been very cheap when it comes to signing players the last couple of years. Even when it comes to acquiring solid depth. That much is obvious. Hell...look at our depth. My question is - why? Do they really just not like any of the guys out there? Are we waiting for something in particular? Or is he just really really sticking to the "building through the draft" philosophy and not budging from it? I don't get it. My brother thinks they're "waiting out Matt Cassel".

I just don't know anymore guys.

**Dave Lane** · 09-13-2011, 02:24 PM

Ask him who he would have signed and who he would sign now if he was the Chiefs GM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

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Regarding all the cap money the Chiefs have, how much of (saving) it do you think is by design since they may have Carr, Flowers, Bowe, etc to sign to big contracts. Are they waiting to see what they do this year, then structure their deals to count against the cap this year?

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Kent Babb:
Guest, They're not going to split $30 million among Bowe, flowers, Carr, et al. That's just not reasonable. They could structure their deals that way, but it still doesn't explain why the Chiefs didn't go after more free agents, be they front-line guys or for depth.

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**Easy 6** · 09-13-2011, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

another shit season and guys like Bowe, Flowers, Carr may not want to re-sign with this team no matter how much money they throw at them

Ouch, the truth really hurts.

Mojo Jojo · 09-13-2011, 03:18 PM

I think Clark is saving the money to settle all the lawsuits the Chiefs are facing from former employees and vendors. And yes there are many...

**Bugeater** · 09-13-2011, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mojo Jojo

I think Clark is saving the money to settle all the lawsuits the Chiefs are facing from former employees and vendors. And yes there are many...

Can you elaborate on that?

Mojo Jojo · 09-13-2011, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

Can you elaborate on that?

I have been served subpoena's for three different cases...former employees/vendors suing the the Chiefs.

kcxiv · 09-13-2011, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

I'm glad we didn't spend a lot of money.

Next year is a different story. We have a window with all of our young talent and load up and go for it.

None of it even matters if Matt Cassel is out there. This whole rebuilding shit with new gm and coach is all for nothing.

kcxiv · 09-13-2011, 04:01 PM

Another thing, how do they get to the min cap. They may be so far under, but by the end of the year, they HAVE to be at a certain point. Money has to be spent.

MIAdragon · 09-13-2011, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim45ks

Here is to the New coach for Next year, if I had to guess top pick of 4
1.Cower
2. Jon Gruden
3.Jeff Fisher
4. possibilyty of Romell Cranel however u spell it lol
in any order would be awsome to help an also francise Quaterback be nice!!! So tlemm me guys what do you bet that brian Waters is laughing his ass off right now????

1. WTF
2. No ****ing way
3. Ill pass on the white Herm
4. Are you drunk or high?

chop · 09-13-2011, 05:21 PM

I find it interesting that the majority here were all excited about the Chiefs offseason and now they start off with a 41-7 beat down, everyone is complaining that they didn't spend enough money to make the team better.

Looking at this from a position by position basis, here is what I thought coming into the season:

QB- I'm not sold on Cassel. I think the Chiefs gambled that Palko was at least as good as anyone available on the street. So far it hasn't hurt us not having a proven veteran but the season is still young. I'm not sure who they should have targeted in the offseason.

RB- The Chiefs already had Thomas, Charles, and McCluster. They picked up McClain and everyone was happy. Though an upgrade to Jones is needed, I was happy with the group as a whole.

WR - This was a position of need going into the season since Bowe was the only productive WR on the team. The Chiefs signed Breaston and picked Baldwin in the first round of the draft. I was happy with the off season moves.

TE- Moeaki is the only ascending player on the roster. I was hoping the Chiefs would make a move on another TE. Not just as a backup but for running two TE sets. I was not happy about the off season here.

OL- The Chiefs cut Waters and resigned Weigman. They also drafted a player that could train under Weigman for a year. I was concerned that Weigman may have lost something due to age but I was ok with a young promising player in the wings. Also, I liked the Gaither signing. Hopefully it pays off. I was a little worried going into the season but I was ok with the moves the Chiefs made here.

DL - Signing Gragg and drafting Powe and Bailey had me feeling a ok with the offseason moves here.

LB - Signing Hali and drafting Houston were positive moves. They also tried to create depth by signing Siler. Sheffield came back. I was positive about this position.

DB - Still waiting for Carr/Flowers to be resigned. Two promising starting safeties on the roster. They brought in competition. Could have used better backups. As soon as Flowers/ Carr were resigned somewhere this year I would be happy about this group. Hindsight is 20/20. It would have been nice to have picked up better depth but I wasn't concerned until after Berry got hurt.

Everyone keeps talking about the failure of them not spending all the cap on FA's. I would only complain about them keeping all of that money if they didn't use it sometime during the season to resign Flowers/Carr/Bowe (unless any of them had a major dropoff).

FloridaMan88 · 09-13-2011, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by chop

OL- The Chiefs cut Waters and resigned Weigman. They also drafted a player that could train under Weigman for a year. I was concerned that Weigman may have lost something due to age but I was ok with a young promising player in the wings. Also, I liked the Gaither signing. Hopefully it pays off. I was a little worried going into the season but I was ok with the moves the Chiefs made here.

Everyone keeps talking about the failure of them not spending all the cap on FA's. I would only complain about them keeping all of that money if they didn't use it sometime during the season to resign Flowers/Carr/Bowe (unless any of them had a major dropoff).

Fat Scott must appreciate you sucking him off with this post.

You were satisfied with what the Chiefs did (or DIDN'T do) at offensive line? How about a legit starting right tackle? Fat Scott couldn't find spare change to bring one in? How about another pass rushing LB?

chop · 09-13-2011, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

Fat Scott must appreciate you sucking him off with this post.

You were satisfied with what the Chiefs did (or DIDN'T do) at offensive line? How about a legit starting right tackle? Fat Scott couldn't find spare change to bring one in? How about another pass rushing LB?

I was hoping that Gaither would help out. That is the only reason I was ok with them not getting another RT. Gaither, when healthy, is a "legit" tackle.

Pass rushing LB. Isn't that what Houston was supposed to provide?

chop · 09-13-2011, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

Fat Scott must appreciate you sucking him off with this post.

I guess Whitlock must appreciate your skills.

TEX · 09-13-2011, 09:49 PM

IMO, the Chiefs did not do enough this off season to match the level of improvement and success they achieved in 2010. A team on the rise should have found a way to improve more than they did. Their moves didn't make me or anyone think they were ready to take the next step. Just my take.

T-post Tom · 09-13-2011, 10:07 PM

Someone has been floating the theory that Pioli is waiting out Haley. They supposedly don't get along and a new coach will be in place after this season. Seems a bit far-fetched, but who knows?

Jerm · 09-13-2011, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom

Someone has floating the theory that Pioli is waiting out Haley. They supposedly don't get along and a new coach will be in place after this season. Seems a bit far-fetched, but who knows?

Does it seem so far fetched?

Is Pioli cerebral enough to know that if Haley continues his BS like running off other coaches and being a complete dick that he might just lose the team which to me may already be happening now?

Therefore, he'll have a reason to can him at the end of the year...

Maybe seems far fetched at first but the more you think about it....

09-13-2011, 10:24 AM
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09-13-2011, 05:21 PM	#39
chop Go Chiefs! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $2884270	I find it interesting that the majority here were all excited about the Chiefs offseason and now they start off with a 41-7 beat down, everyone is complaining that they didn't spend enough money to make the team better. Looking at this from a position by position basis, here is what I thought coming into the season: QB- I'm not sold on Cassel. I think the Chiefs gambled that Palko was at least as good as anyone available on the street. So far it hasn't hurt us not having a proven veteran but the season is still young. I'm not sure who they should have targeted in the offseason. RB- The Chiefs already had Thomas, Charles, and McCluster. They picked up McClain and everyone was happy. Though an upgrade to Jones is needed, I was happy with the group as a whole. WR - This was a position of need going into the season since Bowe was the only productive WR on the team. The Chiefs signed Breaston and picked Baldwin in the first round of the draft. I was happy with the off season moves. TE- Moeaki is the only ascending player on the roster. I was hoping the Chiefs would make a move on another TE. Not just as a backup but for running two TE sets. I was not happy about the off season here. OL- The Chiefs cut Waters and resigned Weigman. They also drafted a player that could train under Weigman for a year. I was concerned that Weigman may have lost something due to age but I was ok with a young promising player in the wings. Also, I liked the Gaither signing. Hopefully it pays off. I was a little worried going into the season but I was ok with the moves the Chiefs made here. DL - Signing Gragg and drafting Powe and Bailey had me feeling a ok with the offseason moves here. LB - Signing Hali and drafting Houston were positive moves. They also tried to create depth by signing Siler. Sheffield came back. I was positive about this position. DB - Still waiting for Carr/Flowers to be resigned. Two promising starting safeties on the roster. They brought in competition. Could have used better backups. As soon as Flowers/ Carr were resigned somewhere this year I would be happy about this group. Hindsight is 20/20. It would have been nice to have picked up better depth but I wasn't concerned until after Berry got hurt. Everyone keeps talking about the failure of them not spending all the cap on FA's. I would only complain about them keeping all of that money if they didn't use it sometime during the season to resign Flowers/Carr/Bowe (unless any of them had a major dropoff). __________________ Never be satisfied with what you achieve, because it all pales in comparison with what you are capable of doing in the future.
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09-13-2011, 10:07 PM	#44
T-post Tom Threepeat! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Milk/Honey/Gazland Casino cash: $4617293	Someone has been floating the theory that Pioli is waiting out Haley. They supposedly don't get along and a new coach will be in place after this season. Seems a bit far-fetched, but who knows? Last edited by T-post Tom; 09-13-2011 at 10:13 PM..
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