Rank our Chiefs upgrade needs from 1 to 25.

**Rain Man** · 12-14-2007, 04:20 PM

The rules:

1. Sadly, we can't include coaches and general managers.

2. Next to each position, list the highest round that you would want to invest in that position based on our current needs and roster and the value of the position, and then also list the lowest round where you think we could pick up an upgrade player who would have a strong chance of coming in as a starter.

3. With respect to Rule 2, assume that we have a coach and a general manager who have a clue instead of Herm and Carl.

4. The list will include 11 offensive positions, 11 defensive positions, and K, P, and KR/PR.

Here's my list, below. According to my own preferences, there are 8 positions where we could draft a player who could make an immediate impact. The good news is that several of those could produce an impact player outside the first round if Carl and Herm weren't buffoons.

My ideal draft would include the following choices, with a preferred structure in bold.

Round 1: RT or QB - Take the QB if you can get a franchise guy, otherwise a RT
Round 2: RT, RG, or C - Top-rated lineman here, preferably at RG
Round 3: RT, RG, or MLB - Top-rated G or T unless we've already taken them in the first 2 rounds.
Round 4: KR/PR or FB - Pick up the top two guys at these lower cost positions.
Round 5: KR/PR or FB
Round 6: KR/PR or FB
Round 7: KR/PR or FB

Position (Player) - Highest preferred investment, pick required to improve

1. RT (Terry/Turley) - 1st round, 3rd round.
2. RG (Welbourn) - 2nd round, 3rd round
3. KR/PR (Webb/Sapp) - 4th round, 7th round
4. K (Carney) - 5th round, 7th round
5. FB (Wilson) - 4th round, 7th round
6. WR (Kennison) - 3rd round, 1st round
7. CB (Law) - 3rd round, 1st round
8. DT (Edwards) - 3rd round, 1st round
9. QB (Croyle) - 1st round, 1st round (Assumes a high enough pick to get a franchise guy.)
10. MLB (Harris) - 3rd round, 3rd round
11. CB (Surtain) - 4th round, 2nd round
12. C (Wiegman) - 2nd round, 2nd round
13. LT (McIntosh) - 6th round, 1st round
14. SS (Wesley/Pollard) - 6th round, 1st round
15. FS (Page) - 6th round, 1st round
16. OLB (Edwards) - 3rd round, 1st round
17. DE (Hali) - 7th round, 1st round
18. DT (Boone) - 6th round, 1st round
19. HB (Johnson) - No draft, no impact
20. TE (Gonzalez) - No draft, no impact
21. LG (Waters) - No draft, no impact
22. P (Colquitt) - No draft, no impact
WR (Bowe) - No draft, no impact
OLB (Johnson) - No draft, no impact
DE (Allen) - No draft, no impact

Brock · 12-14-2007, 04:21 PM

A RT in the top of the first rd? Yeesh.

**Rain Man** · 12-14-2007, 04:30 PM

Yeah, I know. But I actually think McIntosh can man the left side if we got a strong natural RT.

Otherwise, I'd be delighted to go with a franchise LT and move McIntosh to the right side, and it'd be all the same to me.

**Skip Towne** · 12-14-2007, 04:35 PM

This is too hard.

Kris Kringle · 12-14-2007, 04:55 PM

Draft needs, in order:

LT, CB, G, DT, WR, C, RT, RS, FB, K

Poistions that we could / should draft in the 1st round:

LT, CB, DT, WR

Poistions that we could / should draft in the 2nd round:

RT, CB, DT, WR, G, C, FB

Poistions that we could / should draft in the 3rd round:

G, DT, WR, C, RS, FB

Kris Kringle · 12-14-2007, 04:58 PM

7. RT (Terry/Turley)
3. RG (Welbourn)
8. KR/PR (Webb/Sapp)
11. K (Carney)
9. FB (Wilson)
6. WR (Kennison)
2. CB (Law)
5. DT (Edwards)
25. QB (Croyle)
12. MLB (Harris)
10. CB (Surtain)
4. C (Wiegman)
1. LT (McIntosh)
13. SS (Wesley/Pollard)
15. FS (Page)
16. OLB (Edwards)
17. DE (Hali)
14. DT (Boone)
20. HB (Johnson)
19. TE (Gonzalez)
18. LG (Waters)
24. P (Colquitt)
23. WR (Bowe)
21. OLB (Johnson)
22. DE (Allen)

ottawa_chiefs_fan · 12-14-2007, 05:07 PM

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JBucc · 12-14-2007, 05:12 PM

1. LT 1st round
2. DT 1st round
3. CB 2nd round
4. Any other OL position 2rd round
5. MLB 2nd round
6. SS 2st round
7. WR 2nd round
8. QB 1st round only
9. K 1st round
10. FB 3rd round

Something like that.
Orange Juice!

Mecca · 12-14-2007, 05:14 PM

No offense but as bad as this team is you can't be saying any position is valued more than another...this team needs any top notch player it can get...

The only position I'd be totally against is RB because those players don't last long enough to have your team being built around them to start with.

Direckshun · 12-14-2007, 05:17 PM

Rain Man, this thread is insane. Make the next one simpler.

That said, here's the Draft I'd like to see:

1. OT
2. DT
3. WR
4. CB
5. Interior OL
5. FB
6. Interior OL
6/7. K
7. Interior OL
7. DE

Kris Kringle · 12-14-2007, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBucc

1. LT 1st round
2. DT 1st round
3. CB 2nd round
4. Any other OL position 2rd round
5. MLB 2nd round
6. SS 2st round
7. WR 2nd round
8. QB 1st round only
9. K 1st round
10. FB 3rd round

Something like that.
Orange Juice!

9. K 1st round

Mecca · 12-14-2007, 05:18 PM

You'd get better value going DT first and OT second...

**banyon** · 12-14-2007, 05:25 PM

Mecca, do you have sigs turned off?

**Tribal Warfare** · 12-14-2007, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

You'd get better value going DT first and OT second...

I agree

Mecca · 12-14-2007, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banyon

Mecca, do you have sigs turned off?

Some jack direct linked off my photobucket and made me go over bandwidth because of it. I got an email about it, my sig will be back in about 10 days.....I just don't feel like making a new account and reupping everything or taking that down.

Does that explain to you why my sig looks like that now?

12-14-2007, 04:20 PM
Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $3348491 VARSITY	Rank our Chiefs upgrade needs from 1 to 25. The rules: 1. Sadly, we can't include coaches and general managers. 2. Next to each position, list the highest round that you would want to invest in that position based on our current needs and roster and the value of the position, and then also list the lowest round where you think we could pick up an upgrade player who would have a strong chance of coming in as a starter. 3. With respect to Rule 2, assume that we have a coach and a general manager who have a clue instead of Herm and Carl. 4. The list will include 11 offensive positions, 11 defensive positions, and K, P, and KR/PR. Here's my list, below. According to my own preferences, there are 8 positions where we could draft a player who could make an immediate impact. The good news is that several of those could produce an impact player outside the first round if Carl and Herm weren't buffoons. My ideal draft would include the following choices, with a preferred structure in bold. Round 1: RT or QB - Take the QB if you can get a franchise guy, otherwise a RT Round 2: RT, RG, or C - Top-rated lineman here, preferably at RG Round 3: RT, RG, or MLB - Top-rated G or T unless we've already taken them in the first 2 rounds. Round 4: KR/PR or FB - Pick up the top two guys at these lower cost positions. Round 5: KR/PR or FB Round 6: KR/PR or FB Round 7: KR/PR or FB Position (Player) - Highest preferred investment, pick required to improve 1. RT (Terry/Turley) - 1st round, 3rd round. 2. RG (Welbourn) - 2nd round, 3rd round 3. KR/PR (Webb/Sapp) - 4th round, 7th round 4. K (Carney) - 5th round, 7th round 5. FB (Wilson) - 4th round, 7th round 6. WR (Kennison) - 3rd round, 1st round 7. CB (Law) - 3rd round, 1st round 8. DT (Edwards) - 3rd round, 1st round 9. QB (Croyle) - 1st round, 1st round (Assumes a high enough pick to get a franchise guy.) 10. MLB (Harris) - 3rd round, 3rd round 11. CB (Surtain) - 4th round, 2nd round 12. C (Wiegman) - 2nd round, 2nd round 13. LT (McIntosh) - 6th round, 1st round 14. SS (Wesley/Pollard) - 6th round, 1st round 15. FS (Page) - 6th round, 1st round 16. OLB (Edwards) - 3rd round, 1st round 17. DE (Hali) - 7th round, 1st round 18. DT (Boone) - 6th round, 1st round 19. HB (Johnson) - No draft, no impact 20. TE (Gonzalez) - No draft, no impact 21. LG (Waters) - No draft, no impact 22. P (Colquitt) - No draft, no impact WR (Bowe) - No draft, no impact OLB (Johnson) - No draft, no impact DE (Allen) - No draft, no impact
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Kris Kringle Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $10004900	Draft needs, in order: LT, CB, G, DT, WR, C, RT, RS, FB, K Poistions that we could / should draft in the 1st round: LT, CB, DT, WR Poistions that we could / should draft in the 2nd round: RT, CB, DT, WR, G, C, FB Poistions that we could / should draft in the 3rd round: G, DT, WR, C, RS, FB __________________ Yes, I really know if you've been naughty or nice!
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Kris Kringle Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $10004900	7. RT (Terry/Turley) 3. RG (Welbourn) 8. KR/PR (Webb/Sapp) 11. K (Carney) 9. FB (Wilson) 6. WR (Kennison) 2. CB (Law) 5. DT (Edwards) 25. QB (Croyle) 12. MLB (Harris) 10. CB (Surtain) 4. C (Wiegman) 1. LT (McIntosh) 13. SS (Wesley/Pollard) 15. FS (Page) 16. OLB (Edwards) 17. DE (Hali) 14. DT (Boone) 20. HB (Johnson) 19. TE (Gonzalez) 18. LG (Waters) 24. P (Colquitt) 23. WR (Bowe) 21. OLB (Johnson) 22. DE (Allen) __________________ Yes, I really know if you've been naughty or nice! Last edited by Kris Kringle; 12-14-2007 at 05:08 PM..
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2647050	No offense but as bad as this team is you can't be saying any position is valued more than another...this team needs any top notch player it can get... The only position I'd be totally against is RB because those players don't last long enough to have your team being built around them to start with.
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Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4403447	Rain Man, this thread is insane. Make the next one simpler. That said, here's the Draft I'd like to see: 1. OT 2. DT 3. WR 4. CB 5. Interior OL 5. FB 6. Interior OL 6/7. K 7. Interior OL 7. DE
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2647050	You'd get better value going DT first and OT second...
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