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Old 06-13-2012, 06:40 AM  
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My wife and I are going to be building a house in the near future (probably 2 years or so). We have been looking at all different types of new and cool things. I watched an episode of Dirty Jobs and Mike was on the job site of a construction company that installs geo-thermal heating and cooling systems under the house obviously prior to the house being built. They said this is very popular on the Left coast, but has moved into the Midwest also. The idea of it is simply interesting to me, I think it would be great to use the earths heating and cooling to cool my house. That being said, have any of you installed or had a system like this installed? If so, how great is it, how expenisve was it, would you recommend it?

Second question again for both types of CP'ers, can anyone share knowledge with me regarding wood burner boiler systems? We used a wood burining stove in our house when I lived at home. I watched some videos of those who have these wood burner boilers that heat their houses and garages efficiently. They put these things outside and then fill it with wood obviously and go from there. I heard you can get a 250 gallon or a 500 gallon burner, and you don't have to fill it with wood all the time because it's so big. The guy I talked with that has one lives in Cleveland Ohio which gets very cold in the winter and he said he has natural gas heating, but also had the wood boiler installed. He said he only used his natural gas a handful of times when it wasn't cold enough to warranty using the wood burner system. He said it has saved him a fortune. The reason I am really interested in this is because where we are going to build (still trying to work it out/fingers crossed) there is almost a limitless supply of firewood, and I have been cutting firewood all my life, so its free and its no big deal to do it.

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:Asking advice about installing a geothermal heating and cooling system when I build my house.
:I then ask about anyone who has knowledge on a wood burner boiler.
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Old 06-13-2012, 10:22 AM   #16
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Let me ask you, what's it like to have rich parents?
Funny you should ask, casue I don't know. They built the house themselves over the course of about seven years of weekends. The pool came from a windfall after my maternal grandmother passed away. I can see how that would come off that way...

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Old 06-13-2012, 10:35 AM   #17
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Are those rebated expiring soon?
Not that I know of.

As everyone said, dont do it if you plan on moving anytime soon. It takes a long time to recoup that cost of the unit.
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Old 06-13-2012, 10:48 AM   #18
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What's the difference?

And this is assuming that I don't live in Iceland.
A heat pump uses energy from existing utilities to pump heat... out of the house in the summer and into the house in the winter. Depending on where you live, a heat pump could be a money saver on your monthly utility bill. Geothermal uses the earth's energy and very little electricity. Your utility bill is virtually non-existent with geothermal.
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Old 06-13-2012, 11:02 AM   #19
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Not that I know of.

As everyone said, dont do it if you plan on moving anytime soon. It takes a long time to recoup that cost of the unit.
Thanks. No need for that in my situation, would be a hell of a lot more trouble/expense than it would ever be worth.
Easier to call the knucklehead contractors when the AC or pool systems need tuned up.
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Old 06-13-2012, 11:20 AM   #20
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A heat pump uses energy from existing utilities to pump heat... out of the house in the summer and into the house in the winter. Depending on where you live, a heat pump could be a money saver on your monthly utility bill. Geothermal uses the earth's energy and very little electricity. Your utility bill is virtually non-existent with geothermal.
I want that.


It does make me wonder what type of environmental impact that stuff has, though. I bet in fifty years we'll discover that it destroys the ecosystem by freezing worm larvae or something, which then kills the birds, which then kills the house cats, which then ... does something to destroy the ecosystem.
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Old 06-13-2012, 11:24 AM   #21
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A heat pump uses energy from existing utilities to pump heat... out of the house in the summer and into the house in the winter. Depending on where you live, a heat pump could be a money saver on your monthly utility bill. Geothermal uses the earth's energy and very little electricity. Your utility bill is virtually non-existent with geothermal.
The more I research it the more I am interested in doing it. If we are able to build on this specific property, I will have zero plans to move in the future, this is where we would want to raise a family. Obviously things could change, but we would plan on staying for 20+ years at least. I currently live in a condo, and we have passed on buying some cheaper houses. I want to build a house how I want it, and keep it for a long long time. Im willing to stay in our small place and save for our own custom house.

Do you install geothermal?
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Old 06-13-2012, 11:24 AM   #22
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Old 06-13-2012, 11:47 AM   #23
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We install geo, its expensive up front, has government rebates, and in the long run you save money. If I could ever afford the up front costs, I'd be all over it.
What kind of up front costs have you seen? Obviously I know thats subjective to some extent.
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Old 06-13-2012, 11:55 AM   #24
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Geothermal is the way to go, especially if you plan on staying there a while. We just had it installed in two of our facilities, and it's saving utilities costs.

Unless you're strapped for space, there's no need to put the wells under your house though. The way they fuse the pipe, there's little chance of a problem, but if there were, I'd rather have it accessible.
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I wish. I'd be a lot more well off than I am now.
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Old 06-13-2012, 12:24 PM   #26
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[QUOTE=Alton deFlat;8677057]Geothermal is the way to go, especially if you plan on staying there a while. We just had it installed in two of our facilities, and it's saving utilities costs.

Unless you're strapped for space, there's no need to put the wells under your house though. The way they fuse the pipe, there's little chance of a problem, but if there were, I'd rather have it accessible.[/QUOTE]

That's the kind of information I was looking for. I would have never thought to do that, thanks for the information.
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Do any of you know what kind of cash we are talking about? Lets just say a 2000 square foot house with a basement. Are we talking 10k, 20k, 30k+
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Do any of you know what kind of cash we are talking about? Lets just say a 2000 square foot house with a basement. Are we talking 10k, 20k, 30k+
Quotes I've seen when looking at articles about it typically put it in the 20k range.
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Quotes I've seen when looking at articles about it typically put it in the 20k range.
See to me, that would be worth it. You would get that back easily if you stayed in the house for a while, which I intend to do.
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