Andy Reid's football team

[Eleazar]

One of the most disturbing aspects of yesterday's series of disturbing events, to me, is that we now have Reid effectively running the team himself.

The word is that they will hire a GM, but Reid is clearly above the GM - past and future - in the pecking order. When the line was drawn, Hunt chose Reid.

To me this is never going to work.

CHunt has created a scheme where the head coach reports directly to the owner which undermines the role of the GM, fundamentally. Reid seems to clearly have been chosen over Dorsey after the relationship deteriorated and now in the search for the GM itself, we can expect that Reid will be a primary decision maker in who is hired, which subjugates the GM even further. Will it do the team good to have a yes-man at GM?

So now, what is going to be the practical difference between Reid's power play and his position in Philadelphia where he controlled everything?

Are we happy that Reid will be without Dorsey's moderating influence in the future?

Does this mean that Reid wanted Mahomes but not Dorsey, and that was a factor in the split? Should it comfort us, with Reid's history of drafting, developing, and selecting free agent QBs, including his hand-picked incumbent starter, Alex Smith?

I think everyone's alarm should be up right now. The Hunt family has a history of being too loyal to guys who weren't good enough in the past, and now Reid has basically been given the keys to the franchise. A guy who can't effectively run three time outs and two challenges.

This didn't end well in Philadelphia and, barring Mahomes becoming elite and being able to turn this goat **** into gasoline, I don't think this is going to end well either.

[Red Dawg]

Spot on insight above. Good post.

[BigCatDaddy]

People that think Reid didnt sign off on every player aquistion or could veto are crazy.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

It all comes down to Mahomes anyway dude. You do realize all the "great" coaches have been propped up and carried by elite QBs, right? Reid also is the one that's developed these dumpster dive "talents" that failed everywhere else. You do realize that too, right? Winnining 11 games a year with Alex Smith is nothing short of incredible.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Cochise

The rationalization process has begun.

Dorsey was the problem! The cap was the problem!

Andy's hand-picked QB, anemic offense and defense, and poor game management - definitely not the problem!

Dorsey was the one holding this organization back!

We have a loaded roster that reached it's ceiling. They reacted to that and got us a guy that can be the stud QB to get over the hump. None of that changed yesterday.

[Ming the Merciless]

[threebag]

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by Cochise

One of the most disturbing aspects of yesterday's series of disturbing events, to me, is that we now have Reid effectively running the team himself.

The word is that they will hire a GM, but Reid is clearly above the GM - past and future - in the pecking order. When the line was drawn, Hunt chose Reid.

To me this is never going to work.

CHunt has created a scheme where the head coach reports directly to the owner which undermines the role of the GM, fundamentally. Reid seems to clearly have been chosen over Dorsey after the relationship deteriorated and now in the search for the GM itself, we can expect that Reid will be a primary decision maker in who is hired, which subjugates the GM even further. Will it do the team good to have a yes-man at GM?

So now, what is going to be the practical difference between Reid's power play and his position in Philadelphia where he controlled everything?

Are we happy that Reid will be without Dorsey's moderating influence in the future?

Does this mean that Reid wanted Mahomes but not Dorsey, and that was a factor in the split? Should it comfort us, with Reid's history of drafting, developing, and selecting free agent QBs, including his hand-picked incumbent starter, Alex Smith?

I think everyone's alarm should be up right now. The Hunt family has a history of being too loyal to guys who weren't good enough in the past, and now Reid has basically been given the keys to the franchise. A guy who can't effectively run three time outs and two challenges.

This didn't end well in Philadelphia and, barring Mahomes becoming elite and being able to turn this goat **** into gasoline, I don't think this is going to end well either.

A lot of speculation masquerading as fact here.

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by splatbass

A lot of speculation masquerading as fact here.

You new here. Cause that's all cp is. Speculation presened as fact.

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

You new here. Cause that's all cp is. Speculation presened as fact.

Even for CP this is egregious.

[srvy]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Good ****ing god.

Poe has been on the decline since his back surgery in 2015. His play slipped big time last year. ILBer isn't a "value position" in this defense and never will be a valued position because they're in nickel and dime for two out of three downs.

Dorsey wasn't fired for allowing Poe to walk and not overdrafting an ILBer (or failing to sign and old bucket of bolts).

Oh hell yes Poe had to go he wasnt even dbl teamed last year and almost everyone handled him with ease. Poe was a good guy but just not worth paying the back is a IED waiting to go off.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Cochise

The rationalization process has begun.

Dorsey was the problem! The cap was the problem!

Andy's hand-picked QB, anemic offense and defense, and poor game management - definitely not the problem!

Dorsey was the one holding this organization back!

So very Chiefs to shit-can the strongest area/side of the team that they hired.
Division rivals breathing nice and easy now.

Great job, Clark!

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

We have a loaded roster that reached it's ceiling. They reacted to that and got us a guy that can be the stud QB to get over the hump. None of that changed yesterday.

The hell it didn't.

One more time:

Do you like having that deep roster stacked with under the radar talent that allows KC to plug and play should the starter go out?

You do?!

Kiss it goodbye Charlie Brown, and get your happy ass back on over to Lucy for some kicking practice.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Cochise

The rationalization process has begun.

Dorsey was the problem! The cap was the problem!

Andy's hand-picked QB, anemic offense and defense, and poor game management - definitely not the problem!

Dorsey was the one holding this organization back!

So dorsey was the one responsible for our talent....but then you blame just Andy Reid for Alex Smith. Funny how that works.
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[-King-]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

People that think Reid didnt sign off on every player aquistion or could veto are crazy.

This 100%. Reid had to sign off on Dorsey himself but people don't think he signs off on players?
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[-King-]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Yeah, I brought this up yesterday, but nobody wants to hear it. I guess we're still in the unicorns and rainbows portion of the offseason, and everything will be alllll right, no matter what.

My impression, from listening to both of them, was that Reid and Dorsey worked as a collaboration. I'm guessing that whoever comes in next is most likely to be a second fiddle. And I just don't believe that's a good thing. As you mention, the 2010-2012 Eagles decline/trainwreck comes to mind.

For four years, we've basically seen the same stuff as post-2004 Philadelphia, so I'm not sure why this would be any different.

We went from we won't win unless we draft a franchise QB to now that we have one, we won't win because we are changing GMs. Funny.
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[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by -King-

We went from we won't win unless we draft a franchise QB to now that we have one, we won't win because we are changing GMs. Funny.
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Ain't no me in that we.

I've always said that I trust the Mahomes pick BECAUSE of Dorsey AND Reid.

And while I never would have predicted this, this is exactly the kind of dysfunction that a supahstah QB can't paper over, I was hoping against hope it wouldn't be a slew of key injuries, some perhaps career threatening. This might be worse. This can hurt us in both talent acquisition and retention, depending.