Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 560

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

**alnorth** · 07-31-2013, 02:06 PM

More reports are starting to trickle in. Apparently the scouts are not very high on Smith at all, they think he's been smoke and mirrors in Wilmington.

WhawhaWhat · 07-31-2013, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma

Bob dutton got a question about Kyle Smith's stuff, and he said he "got guys out".

Gee Bob, ya think. Dude is an idiot on twitter.

I love Dutton and his responses back to the morons that send him questions. The best part is that people expect him to give him opinion on everything and he only says what he has been told from his sources. Very rarely speculates.

penbrook · 07-31-2013, 02:06 PM

Per Ervin Santana

Yessssssss!!!!!!
Lets go get em!!!!!
#SecondHalfIsOurs

Cephalic Trauma · 07-31-2013, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

0.3 wins.

DM, proving once again, that he's a mother****ing stooge.

**DeezNutz** · 07-31-2013, 02:07 PM

Man, I'd rather have this to platoon against lefties:

284/.336/.466

**alnorth** · 07-31-2013, 02:07 PM

Ervin Santana has just announced that he was not traded.

Sure-Oz · 07-31-2013, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth

More reports are starting to trickle in. Apparently the scouts are not very high on Smith at all, they think he's been smoke and mirrors in Wilmington.

Keith Law wasn't concerned after Rany went ape shit and told him to chill its a low level prospect not worth anything

**alnorth** · 07-31-2013, 02:08 PM

.

Quote:

JJ Cooper ‏@jjcoop36 1m In Smith, Astros get a RHP with great feel, but who sits 88-90 with fastball, avg change, + CB. Not many of guys with that profile make it.

penbrook · 07-31-2013, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silver5liter

Yay 2b is still shit

Yep and our best option is Miguel Tejada who surprisingly can still produce.

Cephalic Trauma · 07-31-2013, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

I love Dutton and his responses back to the morons that send him questions. The best part is that people expect him to give him opinion on everything and he only says what he has been told from his sources. Very rarely speculates.

So he's a conduit of stupidity. Sounds like a lot to love.

Titty Meat · 07-31-2013, 02:09 PM

Dayton kept a guy who's going to be gone just so they can finish over .500 lol brilliant

Messier · 07-31-2013, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth

More reports are starting to trickle in. Apparently the scouts are not very high on Smith at all, they think he's been smoke and mirrors in Wilmington.

The scouts have been crackerjack so far under Moore.

duncan_idaho · 07-31-2013, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth

More reports are starting to trickle in. Apparently the scouts are not very high on Smith at all, they think he's been smoke and mirrors in Wilmington.

Cooper, Parks and Law all agree on it.

That's my Holy Trinity of Baseball Prospect guys.

I will step off the ledge.

tk13 · 07-31-2013, 02:10 PM

Ken Rosenthal's twitter is basically a feed of what teams are not doing. Just nothing out there unless you went crazy.
Posted via Mobile Device

**ChiTown** · 07-31-2013, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier

The scouts have been crackerjack so far under Moore.

12-11-2012, 09:59 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1870308	2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it? Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-15-2013 at 10:01 AM..
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alnorth . Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $57176239	More reports are starting to trickle in. Apparently the scouts are not very high on Smith at all, they think he's been smoke and mirrors in Wilmington. __________________ how many emo kids does it take to change a lightbulb? HOW MANY?! none they just sit in the dark and cry
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