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Old 01-11-2012, 07:00 PM  
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Cassel post Haley\Muir...if he could improve on one thing..
ok so it sounds like Cassel is going to be the man next season. Yes, we all know CP says he sucks at life and isn't the answer. having said that he is going to be our QB it seems whether we like it or not.

I am not sold that our offense had to be so conservative because of Cassel. I think Haley had a lot to do with that. In hindsight I think we are going to see a lot of Haley's fail in comparison to a new coaching staff. Yes, Haley did some good things, I don't want to take that away from him. But I think the fact that he couldn't keep an OC on staff puts his thumbprint on this ridiculous offensive scheme we have seen for 3 years. Plus our O-line has been shit for 3 years as well. Pioli sounds like he finally realizes that fact so I expect to see more talent on that side of the ball next season.

That being said, if you could pick one area for Cassel to improve, (Lord knows there are plenty) what would it be?

Personally I think if he improved on his progressions he would eliminate a lot of the suck.
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Old 01-11-2012, 07:52 PM   #46
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We know what Cassel is.

I'm a little interested in seeing what Orton could do with the weapons we could have on the field next year. In CHicago and Denver, he never had what he could have here next year.

Do I think he could win a SB? No
Playoff game? Sure

That said, he needs to be a stop gap.
Agreed. But why can't Pioli just say, "I could've been wrong about Cassel, so let's bring back Orton & simply see who are starter will be after training camp." Competition right? There's not much chance we can draft the QB of the future this draft, so it only makes sense to use Orton as that stop-gap until then.
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Old 01-11-2012, 07:54 PM   #47
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Agreed. But why can't Pioli just say, "I could've been wrong about Cassel, so let's bring back Orton & simply see who are starter will be after training camp." Competition right? There's not much chance we can draft the QB of the future this draft, so it only makes sense to use Orton as that stop-gap until then.
That's what I don't get. Why would Pioli hitch his wagon to Cassel of all people?
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Dunno bro.


I actually have mixed emotions on what Pioli will do this offseason. I really don't think Romeo wants Cassel. I know his presser and all, but his comments during the season were a little different.

I would like to see what Orton can do. Call me crazy. I've always thought he was alot better than people give him credit for.
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Old 01-11-2012, 07:55 PM   #49
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Dunno bro.


I actually have mixed emotions on what Pioli will do this offseason. I really don't think Romeo wants Cassel. I know his presser and all, but his comments during the season were a little different.

I would like to see what Orton can do. Call me crazy. I've always thought he was alot better than people give him credit for.
I'd prefer Orton as well.
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Old 01-11-2012, 08:02 PM   #50
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No way....not even ****ing close.
Albert - almost made the probowl
Lilja - had a down year, but I think that was more due to a declining Weigmann than his own play eroding.
Hudson - showed to be a stud interior linemen in limited action
Asamoah - had a great year. Handled Suh and many other good DT on single blocks
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Those 4 are solid, but we should probably get Liljas replacement in line as this is the last year of his contract iirc and he is getting close to "that point"

IMO we can upgrade this OL big time with a mid rounder.
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IMO Orton isn't the stinky turd some say he is. He throws the ball well, seems pretty smart football wise, and wants to win.

He's kinda got the shaft everywhere he has been. Granted in Denver he had a bad record, but I don't put that all on him.
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Albert - almost made the probowl
Lilja - had a down year, but I think that was more due to a declining Weigmann than his own play eroding.
Hudson - showed to be a stud interior linemen in limited action
Asamoah - had a great year. Handled Suh and many other good DT on single blocks
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Those 4 are solid, but we should probably get Liljas replacement in line as this is the last year of his contract iirc and he is getting close to "that point"

IMO we can upgrade this OL big time with a mid rounder.
We need a RT, yes...I am not sold on Lilja and we have yet to see Hudson really play a lot so jury is still out there.
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It was said in the draft forum by of all people Sac, but if we grabbed Konz in the first and a RT somewhere we would have a great oline.
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It was said in the draft forum by of all people Sac, but if we grabbed Konz in the first and a RT somewhere we would have a great oline.
Can we trade down to do that and pick up some more picks?
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We need a RT, yes...I am not sold on Lilja and we have yet to see Hudson really play a lot so jury is still out there.
Hudson played really well against Pitt and the Bears.

Sorry if this is old as I've said it in alot of other threads but here would be my offseason.

Decide what to do with Hudson. C or LG.

If it's C, grab Ben Grubbs or Carl Nicks, whichever one hits FA. Draft the best RT available in the second round. Draft BPA in the first round. Sign Orton.

Granted this is if you arent trading up to get one of the big two QBS

A line of

Albert, Nicks, Hudson, Asamoah, Nate Potter would be pretty salty IMO.
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Can we trade down to do that and pick up some more picks?
Sure sure. If someone is willing I damn sure would. Say down to the early 20s.
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It was said in the draft forum by of all people Sac, but if we grabbed Konz in the first and a RT somewhere we would have a great oline.
We could have 5 first or second rounders on the OL and sac would want us to spend 2 more every year.

If we traded up to second overall, the guy would be hoping for Kalil.
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We could have 5 first or second rounders on the OL and sac would want us to spend 2 more every year.

If we traded up to second overall, the guy would be hoping for Kalil.
I know I know.
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