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Old 04-09-2017, 08:57 AM  
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Okay, so WHAT exactly is so goddamn great about the 2018 QB class?

I see a loooooot of question marks here. A bunch of guys who would be 3rd or 4th rounders in THIS draft class if they declared this year. A bunch of these dudes are so young they might not even declare for the draft. And finally, we got a bunch of spread QBs who.... [gasp!]... need time to acclimate to an NFL pro style offense and develop the footwork and timing of taking snaps under center.

I see Sam Darnold. That's great. There's your #1 overall. IF HE ****ING DECLARES, THAT IS. I see Josh Rosen, who looked good in 2015 but could wind up as another Christian Hackenburg who never puts it all together. And I see a bunch of dried cum with question marks, JUST LIKE THIS QB DRAFT CLASS.

Here's how Walter Football has them ranked:

1. Sam Darnold, USC
2. Josh Rosen, UCLA
3. Luke Falk, Washington State
4. Josh Allen, Wyoming
5. Jarrett Stidham, Auburn
6. Nick Fitzgerald, Mississippi State
7. Chase Litton, Marshall
8. Riley Ferguson, Memphis

COULD this be an awesome and deep draft class for QBs? Yes, absoutely. No question about it. But guess what. There's an equal chance that this QB class flames out and looks just as bad as the 2013 class, particularly if Sam Darnold doesn't declare.

People who bitch about the 2017 class don't ****ing get it. They think if there's no true top end QB, that means they all suck. What do the Chiefs ****ing care about the quality of the top guys in a given QB draft class? We're not going to be in a position to draft them!

Again, let me say this slowly, so the retards and assholes can hear me:

In ANY GIVEN DRAFT CLASS, the top QB prospects with the best resumes and attributes are irrelevant to the QB draft needs of the Chiefs. The Chiefs have zero shot at picking any of them. The worst teams with the biggest QB needs will draft all of these players before Dorsey can even begin to pick up the goddamn phone to call and move up.

Tell me what we gain from NOT drafting a QB in 2017 so we can draft Josh Allen, Jarrett Stidham, or Chase ****ing Litton in 2018, a FULL YEAR LONGER where Alex Smith is the only ****ing thing we have at QB.
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Old 04-10-2017, 02:29 PM   #181
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Sorry but Mason Rudolph is waaaay better than a Johnny Manziel ripoff like Mahomes.

It's just a very strong 2018 class.
You just posted that you don't want spread offense air raid QB's but now you want Rudolph?

The mother****er looks at giant cards from the sideline every play
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Old 04-10-2017, 02:37 PM   #182
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You just posted that you don't want spread offense air raid QB's but now you want Rudolph?

The mother****er looks at giant cards from the sideline every play
He's more of a dropback passer than a Johnny Manziel clone though. Far better fit for the NFL.

He's a nice consolation prize.
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Old 04-10-2017, 02:41 PM   #183
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Clay doesn't know what he wants. All that work he put in for Geno is still breaking his heart.
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Old 04-10-2017, 02:41 PM   #184
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Clay doesn't know what he wants. All that work he put in for Geno is still breaking his heart.
I know what I DON'T want, and it's ANYBODY from the 2017 class.
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Clay wants to give the organization shit for passing on Carr, but he's scared to draft a QB that isn't an elite prospect.
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Old 04-10-2017, 02:47 PM   #187
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Asking this question is the EXACT way our Chiefs front office has been thinking for the duration of my life. And THAT is the problem. Always making excuses to not draft a QB.
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Clay wants to give the organization shit for passing on Carr, but he's scared to draft a QB that isn't an elite prospect.
What's hilarious is that most of the good QB's in the league weren't looked at as elite.

Rodgers, Flacco, Carr, Dalton, Brady, Brees, Dak, Wilson, Romo, Cousins.

All of these guys were drafted after the first half of the first rd
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He wanted no part of Carr
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Clay wants to give the organization shit for passing on Carr, but he's scared to draft a QB that isn't an elite prospect.
Mahomes isn't even a decent prospect. He's Johnny Manzel lite.

This isn't a Joe Flacco situation. It's a Geno Smith situation. And we all should have learned our lesson.
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Mahomes isn't even a decent prospect. He's Johnny Manzel lite.

This isn't a Joe Flacco situation. It's a Geno Smith situation. And we all should have learned our lesson.
What about Trubisky, Watson, Kizer, Webb, Kaaya, Peterman, Dobbs, Evans?

You're a ****ing coward if you can't find one ****ing QB in this class worth taking a chance on in the first two days.
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What about Trubisky? Watson? Kizer? Webb? Kaaya? Peterman? Dobbs? Evans?

You're a ****ing coward if you can't find one ****ing QB in this class worth taking a chance on in the first two days?
I'll take a flier on Trubisky, Watson or Mahomes in the 2nd round.

Actually that would be an ideal situation.

Trade our 2017 1st for a 2018 1st.

Use the 2nd on one of these dubious QB prospects, just in case.

Proceed as planned in 2018 when one of the 2017 outstanding citizens flames out.
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I'll take a flier on Trubisky, Watson or Mahomes in the 2nd round.
Pussy. Dorsey has 9 other picks to work with. Take them in round 1 and get the 5th year option.
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