Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-31-2012, 02:52 PM  
Saul Good Saul Good is offline
Quit your bullshit
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Bored of winning
Casino cash: $10052799
****The official NEW new conference realignment thread.****

the second thread has been pronounced dead.
Posts: 41,870
Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.
   
Old 11-30-2012, 09:36 AM   #5536
Saul Good Saul Good is offline
Quit your bullshit
 

Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Bored of winning
Casino cash: $10052799
Quote:
Originally Posted by patteeu View Post
The decision for how conference champions are determined should be left to each conference. They don't have to all do it the same way. As long as rules are in place to determine the champion based on the play on the field, the subjective element is unnecessary and IMO undesirable.
Why should conferences have any say in the matter. Conference championships and national championships use entirely different metrics. They are distinct entities unto themselves, and one should not be used as a qualification for the other at the exclusion of all else.
__________________
Today is not a good day to be a pussy.
Posts: 41,870
Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.
   
Old 11-30-2012, 09:37 AM   #5537
BigCatDaddy BigCatDaddy is offline
The Beast Inside Your Head
 
BigCatDaddy's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Parts Unknown
Casino cash: $2329122
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP View Post
That will never fly - and it shouldn't. Non-con games generate big revenues and are big on entertainment. The only time you'd see conferences match up would be post-season? Terrible idea.
I think it adds much more the games in the playoffs because it isn't watered down with regular season interconference games.

It would be awesome
Posts: 25,851
BigCatDaddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigCatDaddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigCatDaddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigCatDaddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigCatDaddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigCatDaddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigCatDaddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigCatDaddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigCatDaddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigCatDaddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigCatDaddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.
   
Old 11-30-2012, 09:39 AM   #5538
DaKCMan AP DaKCMan AP is offline
Beloved & Awesome CP Celebrity
 
DaKCMan AP's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Florida
Casino cash: $6814952
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy View Post
I think it adds much more the games in the playoffs because it isn't watered down with regular season interconference games.
I think what it creates is a watered down regular season that doesn't measure to the current excitement of college football.
__________________
https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/signaturepics/sigpic78_6.gif
Posts: 35,693
DaKCMan AP has disabled reputation
   
Old 11-30-2012, 09:40 AM   #5539
patteeu patteeu is offline
The 23rd Pillar
 
patteeu's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2002
Casino cash: $10019237
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saul Good View Post
Preseason games aren't real in the sense that they impact your record.
You're talking accounting gimmicks now. The fact that we have a tradition of publishing one type of record over another doesn't reflect any underlying truth relative to this question.
__________________


“Boy, you all want power. God, I hope you never get it.” - Lindsay Graham
Posts: 110,871
patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.
   
Old 11-30-2012, 09:40 AM   #5540
Saul Good Saul Good is offline
Quit your bullshit
 

Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Bored of winning
Casino cash: $10052799
Quote:
Originally Posted by patteeu View Post
We're talking about hypothetical systems that replace the current BCS. Let me be more explicit for you:
That's a horrible plan, then. You're advocating an eight game season. Teams would all schedule crap teams in the non-con, and their only goals would be to not get hurt. A full third of the season would turn into the NFL preseason.
__________________
Today is not a good day to be a pussy.
Posts: 41,870
Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.
   
Old 11-30-2012, 09:41 AM   #5541
BigCatDaddy BigCatDaddy is offline
The Beast Inside Your Head
 
BigCatDaddy's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Parts Unknown
Casino cash: $2329122
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP View Post
I think what it creates is a watered down regular season that doesn't measure to the current excitement of college football.
There are few very good non conference games as it is. The benefits outweigh the negatives.

Most teams have 1 decent non con game that will now be replaced by playing legit teams within their conference. I don't see the big loss.
Posts: 25,851
BigCatDaddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigCatDaddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigCatDaddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigCatDaddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigCatDaddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigCatDaddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigCatDaddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigCatDaddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigCatDaddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigCatDaddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigCatDaddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.
   
Old 11-30-2012, 09:41 AM   #5542
patteeu patteeu is offline
The 23rd Pillar
 
patteeu's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2002
Casino cash: $10019237
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saul Good View Post
Why should conferences have any say in the matter. Conference championships and national championships use entirely different metrics. They are distinct entities unto themselves, and one should not be used as a qualification for the other at the exclusion of all else.
They're distinct now. I think it should be changed.

Just like we determine a national champion using the BCS system now (or the competing AP poll), but we all want to change it in one way or another.
__________________


“Boy, you all want power. God, I hope you never get it.” - Lindsay Graham
Posts: 110,871
patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.
   
Old 11-30-2012, 09:44 AM   #5543
Saul Good Saul Good is offline
Quit your bullshit
 

Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Bored of winning
Casino cash: $10052799
Quote:
Originally Posted by patteeu View Post
You're talking accounting gimmicks now. The fact that we have a tradition of publishing one type of record over another doesn't reflect any underlying truth relative to this question.
Not at all. League games are designated as games that count. We might as well count field goals kicked in pre-game warmups by your standard. After all, using the actual game to determine when the scoring counts is just an accounting gimmick.
__________________
Today is not a good day to be a pussy.
Posts: 41,870
Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.
   
Old 11-30-2012, 09:45 AM   #5544
patteeu patteeu is offline
The 23rd Pillar
 
patteeu's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2002
Casino cash: $10019237
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saul Good View Post
That's a horrible plan, then. You're advocating an eight game season. Teams would all schedule crap teams in the non-con, and their only goals would be to not get hurt. A full third of the season would turn into the NFL preseason.
There was a 9 game season in the Big 12 this year which is an example of how conferences do things differently. Conferences are free to schedule however they want and they're also free to count non-conference games as a part of their conference championship determination if they want. I'm not trying to dictate any of those things.
__________________


“Boy, you all want power. God, I hope you never get it.” - Lindsay Graham
Posts: 110,871
patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.
   
Old 11-30-2012, 09:48 AM   #5545
Saul Good Saul Good is offline
Quit your bullshit
 

Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Bored of winning
Casino cash: $10052799
Quote:
Originally Posted by patteeu View Post
There was a 9 game season in the Big 12 this year which is an example of how conferences do things differently. Conferences are free to schedule however they want and they're also free to count non-conference games as a part of their conference championship determination if they want. I'm not trying to dictate any of those things.
Yes. Conferences do things differently. They are free to do so because conference championships have no bearing on eligibility for national championships.
__________________
Today is not a good day to be a pussy.
Posts: 41,870
Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.
   
Old 11-30-2012, 09:51 AM   #5546
patteeu patteeu is offline
The 23rd Pillar
 
patteeu's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2002
Casino cash: $10019237
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saul Good View Post
Not at all. League games are designated as games that count. We might as well count field goals kicked in pre-game warmups by your standard. After all, using the actual game to determine when the scoring counts is just an accounting gimmick.
Designating which games count is something that can easily be changed one way or the other. But we're talking about games here, not random events like pre-game warmup kicks. The games are all played by essentially the same rules whether they're pre-season, regular season, or playoffs in the NFL or non-con, conference, or bowl/playoffs in college. The rule differences, where there are any, are minimal. There's no reason in the world why pre-season games couldn't be regular season games in the NFL. In fact, the owners have proposed transforming 2 of them into real games to make for an 18 game season just recently, no?
__________________


“Boy, you all want power. God, I hope you never get it.” - Lindsay Graham
Posts: 110,871
patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.
   
Old 11-30-2012, 09:52 AM   #5547
patteeu patteeu is offline
The 23rd Pillar
 
patteeu's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2002
Casino cash: $10019237
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saul Good View Post
Yes. Conferences do things differently. They are free to do so because conference championships have no bearing on eligibility for national championships.
Wrong. They'd be free to do so even if conference championships had a bearing on eligibility for national championships, at least up to a point. They are independent of one another.
__________________


“Boy, you all want power. God, I hope you never get it.” - Lindsay Graham
Posts: 110,871
patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.
   
Old 11-30-2012, 09:54 AM   #5548
mikeyis4dcats. mikeyis4dcats. is offline
Scarlett Johansson's boytoy
 
mikeyis4dcats.'s Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2006
Casino cash: $9555998
Quote:
Originally Posted by Infidel Goat View Post
Thanks, Al. I frequent an ACC board, and I think the consensus on that board is that the exit fee will actually stick (teams continue to pay the Big East, for instance). It'll be interesting to watch in the coming weeks, months, years (or decades, I hope).
Maryland will pay something, but much like Mizzou, NU, CU, and A&M, they won't pay anywhere near the full demand.
__________________
Posts: 12,521
mikeyis4dcats. is too fat/Omaha.mikeyis4dcats. is too fat/Omaha.mikeyis4dcats. is too fat/Omaha.mikeyis4dcats. is too fat/Omaha.mikeyis4dcats. is too fat/Omaha.mikeyis4dcats. is too fat/Omaha.mikeyis4dcats. is too fat/Omaha.mikeyis4dcats. is too fat/Omaha.mikeyis4dcats. is too fat/Omaha.mikeyis4dcats. is too fat/Omaha.mikeyis4dcats. is too fat/Omaha.
   
Old 11-30-2012, 09:55 AM   #5549
Saul Good Saul Good is offline
Quit your bullshit
 

Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Bored of winning
Casino cash: $10052799
Quote:
Originally Posted by patteeu View Post
Designating which games count is something that can easily be changed one way or the other. But we're talking about games here, not random events like pre-game warmup kicks. The games are all played by essentially the same rules whether they're pre-season, regular season, or playoffs in the NFL or non-con, conference, or bowl/playoffs in college. The rule differences, where there are any, are minimal. There's no reason in the world why pre-season games couldn't be regular season games in the NFL. In fact, the owners have proposed transforming 2 of them into real games to make for an 18 game season just recently, no?
No. Your last sentence is incorrect.
__________________
Today is not a good day to be a pussy.
Posts: 41,870
Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.
   
Old 11-30-2012, 09:57 AM   #5550
mikeyis4dcats. mikeyis4dcats. is offline
Scarlett Johansson's boytoy
 
mikeyis4dcats.'s Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2006
Casino cash: $9555998
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saul Good View Post
No. Your last sentence is incorrect.
only in that it was the NFL that proposed it. It was still discussed.
__________________
Posts: 12,521
mikeyis4dcats. is too fat/Omaha.mikeyis4dcats. is too fat/Omaha.mikeyis4dcats. is too fat/Omaha.mikeyis4dcats. is too fat/Omaha.mikeyis4dcats. is too fat/Omaha.mikeyis4dcats. is too fat/Omaha.mikeyis4dcats. is too fat/Omaha.mikeyis4dcats. is too fat/Omaha.mikeyis4dcats. is too fat/Omaha.mikeyis4dcats. is too fat/Omaha.mikeyis4dcats. is too fat/Omaha.
   
Closed Thread

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:47 PM.


This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.