Chiefs Chiefs' offense: "one of the worst in the league, by nearly every measure" - Page 85

**the Talking Can** · 06:49 AM

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2013/9...chiefs-offense

some numbers to chew on from arrowhead pride

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The Chiefs are actually 12th in the league in PPG, at 23.7. But if you take away the 14 points the defense is directly responsible for, that number drops to 19 PPG, which would be tied for 23rd - with the Raiders. The Chiefs are relying on the defense to score points, which isn't good. Defensive scoring is random and shouldn't be part of the game plan. They didn't need Tamba Hali's pick-6 to beat the Jaguars, but they did need Eric Berry's against the Eagles.

They also are just not moving the ball; their 333 yds/gm is 21st in the league and their 4.9 yds/play ranks 25th. "Well Kyle," you may ask, " if the Chiefs offense is so bad, how are they undefeated this year?" That's an excellent question, thank you for asking. The answer is that the defense and special teams are much, much better than we thought.

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The problem the Chiefs are having is getting to the Red Zone in the first place. They're 30th in yards per drive, with only Tampa Bay and Jacksonville behind them, and Cleveland directly in front of them (not good company to be in). This is a really, really bad offense. But here's the real kicker: the Chiefs' offense has the best starting field position in the NFL this year, and still can't score.

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The Chiefs average 17 yards per drive better field position than their opponents (ok, ok, 16.95), the best mark in the NFL (2nd table). Only two other teams average more than 10 yards better starting field position than their opponents (New England and Chicago). The Chiefs' average starting line of scrimmage (LOS) is their own 36.97 yard line (best in the NFL), while their opponents average starting LOS is their own 20.02 yard line (also best in the NFL). What all of that means is the Chiefs's offense is handed consistently great starting field position and can't do anything with it, then they let the special teams pin opponents deep in their own territory. The defense bails out the offense by not letting opponents move the ball, giving the offense the ball back with great starting field position. Lather, rinse, repeat.

There's a nice breakdown of our defense against philly over there as well:
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/9/2...p-kelly-eagles

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I have to reiterate and emphasize just how much the Chiefs played man to man -- like a ton of it. And they have the secondary to handle it, unlike most teams in the NFL. Specifically, they matched up Sean Smith on Cooper a lot on the outside. If this had been a prize fight, Cooper's corner would have thrown in the towel somewhere around the middle of the second quarter. Smith owned him right up until the end of the game when he started cramping up. Cooper just couldn't shake him, especially on those aforementioned deep routes Kelly had him running all game.

**Rausch** · 09-28-2013, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

We all know that is not true. Its just your scramble for a retort.

I hope?
Look at your av

So you are a
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for a player you have nothing invested in?
stupid
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STUPID

Drunks like you set us all back 200 years...

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-28-2013, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Drunks like you set us all back 200 years...

Pasta Little Brioni · 09-28-2013, 08:12 AM

Shit. I figured Alex would get b 3750 in Reids offense. Dude hates running the ball.

Imon Yourside · 09-28-2013, 08:14 AM

WTF is even going on here? Do you even lift guys?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-28-2013, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by PGM

Shit. I figured Alex would get b 3750 in Reids offense. Dude hates running the ball.

Beach is simply discounting the inevitable game or three where Axl gets his shit thoroughly pushed in. I have the patience of a Jedi Master; I can wait.

Imon Yourside · 09-28-2013, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by PGM

Shit. I figured Alex would get b 3750 in Reids offense. Dude hates running the ball.

I'm seeing at least 4k but feeling about 2k.

**Rausch** · 09-28-2013, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

I'm seeing at least 4k but feeling about 2k.

So you have no idea...

Pasta Little Brioni · 09-28-2013, 08:18 AM

Sweets needs a bangmaid

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-28-2013, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by PGM

Sweets needs a bangmaid

I gots one, but if you want to send me another she'd probably be down.

**Rausch** · 09-28-2013, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

I gots one, but if you want to send me another she'd probably be down.

Your sister is bi?...

Pasta Little Brioni · 09-28-2013, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

I gots one, but if you want to send me another she'd probably be down.

All she does is cook and clean. You don't have to listen to her bullshit...and you get to bang her?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-28-2013, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Your sister is bi?...

Asshole.

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Originally Posted by PGM

All she does is cook and clean. You don't have to listen to her bullshit...and you get to bang her?

Two out of three FTW?

Pasta Little Brioni · 09-28-2013, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

Asshole.

Two out of three FTW?

Nope. Not a bangmaid then.

Imon Yourside · 09-28-2013, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

So you have no idea...

What would give you that impression? I predict somewhere between 2k and 4k, is that not seer enough brah?

gonefishin53 · 09-28-2013, 09:55 AM

I think it's more on Reid than the players for the inconsistent offense. Alex Smith has shown he is comfortable and accurate throwing deep off play action. His pass to Fasano to start the Dallas game showed good timing, accuracy and execution of the play action pass. But if AR doesn't establish the run early, AS can't be effective at what he does best. The Chiefs have shown they can do the power run game effectively with their late game drives to seal wins vs the Cowboys and Eagles. Also, JC's TD run vs the Jags, with Stephenson at TE, was a good example of this offense's ability to run with power when they want to. I think if AR started the game with power running and play action passing with Stephenson at TE until Fasano and Kelce are healthy, AS would be more effective and would better utilize his best attribute (play action pass) and WRs Bowe and Avery. I think the pass blocking would also improve if the oline were attacking defenders at the snap in play action instead of dropping at the snap in pistol/spread offense.

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09-28-2013, 09:55 AM	#1275
gonefishin53 Starter Join Date: Dec 2010 Casino cash: $10011999	I think it's more on Reid than the players for the inconsistent offense. Alex Smith has shown he is comfortable and accurate throwing deep off play action. His pass to Fasano to start the Dallas game showed good timing, accuracy and execution of the play action pass. But if AR doesn't establish the run early, AS can't be effective at what he does best. The Chiefs have shown they can do the power run game effectively with their late game drives to seal wins vs the Cowboys and Eagles. Also, JC's TD run vs the Jags, with Stephenson at TE, was a good example of this offense's ability to run with power when they want to. I think if AR started the game with power running and play action passing with Stephenson at TE until Fasano and Kelce are healthy, AS would be more effective and would better utilize his best attribute (play action pass) and WRs Bowe and Avery. I think the pass blocking would also improve if the oline were attacking defenders at the snap in play action instead of dropping at the snap in pistol/spread offense.
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