Who on our roster is MOST deserving of a pro bowl? - Page 2

**Rain Man** · 12-13-2005, 05:21 PM

If the Chiefs could only have one pro bowl representative, who should it be?

On its way is a - you guessed it - poll.

Hammock Parties · 12-13-2005, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

But we can't run to the right side....

Not since he came back this year, baby. We still don't run as strong to the right as we do to the left, but we run much better to the right since he came back.

LJ has 60 carries for 261 yards and 3 touchdowns to the right side of the field. That's 4.35 yards per carry.

In 2003 Priest averaged 3.68 yards per carry to the right side.

In 2002 he averaged 4.37.

So anyway you look at it, Welbourn has made a difference.

Hammock Parties · 12-13-2005, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

Roaf has started about as many games as LJ has. You can't say one belongs and not the other.

Bull and shit.

Chiefnj · 12-13-2005, 05:36 PM

Roaf. He is still a dominant player and without him the offense goes from being a top 3 offense to below average. That says a lot.

Allen is a distant #2. The problem with Allen is the rest of the defense. The guy creates some big plays that the rest of the team just doesn't capitalize on. Years ago when DT would turn the corner and knock the ball free from a QB you just knew that Saleamua or Phillips or Smith was going to fall on the ball and create a turnover. Or when DT got a big sack, the rest of the D stepped up the rest of the drive (if there was one). Allen strips the ball and nobody is around to grab it. He gets a sack or a good pressure and the Chiefs still let the opposition convert critical third downs.

tk13 · 12-13-2005, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs

Bull and shit.

The heck I can't. We are an elite offense with Willie Roaf. Without him we're not. With him we're a playoff contender. Without him, we're not.

Thig Lyfe · 12-13-2005, 05:39 PM

LJ
Tony Richardson
Jared Allen
Kawika Mitchell

**Rain Man** · 12-13-2005, 05:41 PM

I should mention too that I have a newfound appreciation for Tony Richardson's blocking ability. (Ahem, cough, cough.)

I love LJ, too. His stats are amazing for a guy who has started only half the year.

KCFalcon59 · 12-13-2005, 05:41 PM

1. LJ
2. Allen
3. Kawika
4. Roaf

Hammock Parties · 12-13-2005, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

The heck I can't. We are an elite offense with Willie Roaf. Without him we're not. With him we're a playoff contender. Without him, we're not.

That's all true, but it doesn't make him a pro bowler. Team MVP? Probably.

LJ is probably going to finish the season 2nd in the AFC in rushing yards and touchdowns...that's pro bowl material.

tk13 · 12-13-2005, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs

That's all true, but it doesn't make him a pro bowler. Team MVP? Probably.

LJ is probably going to finish the season 2nd in the AFC in rushing yards and touchdowns...that's pro bowl material.

Why wouldn't it make him a Pro Bowler? If we make the playoffs, he's going to be the key guy responsible... I'd say that's worth a Pro Bowl ticket... the fact that he's even responsible for us being in the race is probably worth a trip.

Hammock Parties · 12-13-2005, 05:46 PM

LJ is rightfully leading this poll.

I think he will make the pro bowl, too.

I can't think of a third RB that is more deserving in the AFC.

Hammock Parties · 12-13-2005, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13

Why wouldn't it make him a Pro Bowler? If we make the playoffs, he's going to be the key guy responsible... I'd say that's worth a Pro Bowl ticket... the fact that he's even responsible for us being in the race is probably worth a trip.

Well maybe your criteria differs from mine. Roaf is only going to play in 10 games this year. And he only played two series in the opener and sucked in San Diego.

Priest had a Pro Bowl year through 8 games last year. Was he deserving? Heck no.

el borracho · 12-13-2005, 05:53 PM

Larry Johnson deserves it most and if he gets 120 yards and 2 TDs each game of the last three he will probably get it.

Jared Allen is probably deserving but being on the #27 (or whatever) defense will probably hurt his chances a bit.

Past these two, an argument could be made for the following players: Roaf, Waters, Mitchell and maybe Richardson (do they always select a fullback?).

Along these same lines, who does everybody like for
-Rookie of the year?
-Offensive Rookie of the year?
and
-Defensive Rookie of the year?

12-13-2005, 05:56 PM

most deserving would be kawika. he was a scrub ready to be written off and has completely changed that. allen had a good year last year and has done better this year but did as expected, roaf is already a pro bowler done expected, waters is already a probowler done expected, and LJ outdid expected but expected was pretty farking good, at least from what ive thought dating back to last season, is obviously a probowler. but mitchell is most "deserving"

ChiefsFanatic · 12-13-2005, 05:56 PM

DV said that Jared Allen has not been out of the last three games on D, and also plays on the wedge.

CoMoChief · 12-13-2005, 05:57 PM

If it wasnt for the injury, Roaf would top this list. LJ wouldn't nearly be as good without Roaf.

View Poll Results: Which Chief is MOST deserving of a trip to Honolulu?
Larry Johnson	45	40.54%
Tony Richardson	0	0%
Trent Green	5	4.50%
Eddie Kennison	0	0%
Samie Parker	0	0%
Tony Gonzalez	1	0.90%
Willie Roaf	16	14.41%
Brian Waters	1	0.90%
Casey Wiegman	2	1.80%
Will Shields	2	1.80%
John Welbourne	0	0%
Lawrence Tynes	1	0.90%
Dustin Colquitt	0	0%
Greg Wesley	0	0%
Sammy Knight	1	0.90%
Patrick Surtain	0	0%
Eric Warfield	1	0.90%
Derrick Johnson	0	0%
Kendrell Bell	2	1.80%
Kawika Mitchell	4	3.60%
Eric Hicks	0	0%
Jared Allen	27	24.32%
John Browning	0	0%
Lional Dalton	0	0%
Someone else on the roster (Please specify.)	0	0%
No one is deserving.	1	0.90%
I plan to criticize the poll.	2	1.80%
Voters: 111. You may not vote on this poll

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Chiefnj MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Willis, Harris and Davis. Casino cash: $10004900	Roaf. He is still a dominant player and without him the offense goes from being a top 3 offense to below average. That says a lot. Allen is a distant #2. The problem with Allen is the rest of the defense. The guy creates some big plays that the rest of the team just doesn't capitalize on. Years ago when DT would turn the corner and knock the ball free from a QB you just knew that Saleamua or Phillips or Smith was going to fall on the ball and create a turnover. Or when DT got a big sack, the rest of the D stepped up the rest of the drive (if there was one). Allen strips the ball and nobody is around to grab it. He gets a sack or a good pressure and the Chiefs still let the opposition convert critical third downs.
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Thig Lyfe Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Thigpen's America Casino cash: $10004900	LJ Tony Richardson Jared Allen Kawika Mitchell
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Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $3348491 VARSITY	I should mention too that I have a newfound appreciation for Tony Richardson's blocking ability. (Ahem, cough, cough.) I love LJ, too. His stats are amazing for a guy who has started only half the year. __________________ I'm putting random letters here as a celebration of free speech: xigrakgrah misorojeq rkemeseit.
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KCFalcon59 MVP Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Topeka, Kansas Casino cash: $920000	1. LJ 2. Allen 3. Kawika 4. Roaf
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12-13-2005, 05:46 PM	#25
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $4740478	LJ is rightfully leading this poll. I think he will make the pro bowl, too. I can't think of a third RB that is more deserving in the AFC. __________________ Chiefs game films
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12-13-2005, 05:53 PM	#27
el borracho In Pat We Trust Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Albuquerque, NM Casino cash: $6409148	Larry Johnson deserves it most and if he gets 120 yards and 2 TDs each game of the last three he will probably get it. Jared Allen is probably deserving but being on the #27 (or whatever) defense will probably hurt his chances a bit. Past these two, an argument could be made for the following players: Roaf, Waters, Mitchell and maybe Richardson (do they always select a fullback?). Along these same lines, who does everybody like for -Rookie of the year? -Offensive Rookie of the year? and -Defensive Rookie of the year?
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12-13-2005, 05:56 PM	#28
pak1983 Guest Casino cash: $	most deserving would be kawika. he was a scrub ready to be written off and has completely changed that. allen had a good year last year and has done better this year but did as expected, roaf is already a pro bowler done expected, waters is already a probowler done expected, and LJ outdid expected but expected was pretty farking good, at least from what ive thought dating back to last season, is obviously a probowler. but mitchell is most "deserving"
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CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $8052254	If it wasnt for the injury, Roaf would top this list. LJ wouldn't nearly be as good without Roaf. __________________
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