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Old 10-21-2018, 05:14 PM  
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Trump to Change Definition of Gender - Dems Scream With Rage

By Steve Straub
October 21, 2018 at 6:29am


The Trump administration is set to narrow the definition of gender based on common-sense and science, and liberals are screaming with rage over this:

The Trump administration is weighing a change that would require individuals to identify as male or female based on their genitalia at birth, tightening gender definitions that had offered more leeway to transgender and gender non-conforming individuals, The New York Times reported Sunday.

The Department of Health and Human Services proposed in a memo obtained by the news outlet that government agencies adopt a definition of gender that is determined “on a biological basis that is clear, grounded in science, objective and administrable.”

The change would would base sex on the genitals a person is born with.

“The sex listed on a person’s birth certificate, as originally issued, shall constitute definitive proof of a person’s sex unless rebutted by reliable genetic evidence,” the memo states, according to The Times.

This seems like common sense, and based on reality, versus the weird pseudo-science world liberals seem to choose to live in.

The New York Times has more on the Trump administration’s decision:

The department argued in its memo that key government agencies needed to adopt an explicit and uniform definition of gender as determined “on a biological basis that is clear, grounded in science, objective and administrable.” The agency’s proposed definition would define sex as either male or female, unchangeable, and determined by the genitals that a person is born with, according to a draft reviewed by The Times. Any dispute about one’s sex would have to be clarified using genetic testing.

“Sex means a person’s status as male or female based on immutable biological traits identifiable by or before birth,” the department proposed in the memo, which was drafted and has been circulating since last spring. “The sex listed on a person’s birth certificate, as originally issued, shall constitute definitive proof of a person’s sex unless rebutted by reliable genetic evidence.”

The new definition would essentially eradicate federal recognition of the estimated 1.4 million Americans who have opted to recognize themselves — surgically or otherwise — as a gender other than the one they were born into.

Again, this seems like common sense.

Of course the NYT gets a bit hysterical over this:

“Transgender people are frightened,” said Sarah Warbelow, the legal director of the Human Rights Campaign, which presses for the rights of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people. “At every step where the administration has had the choice, they’ve opted to turn their back on transgender people.”

Personally, think this is the right decision and long overdue.


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Old 10-22-2018, 06:28 AM   #16
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Old 10-22-2018, 07:59 AM   #17
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Old 10-22-2018, 08:12 AM   #18
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You either have a dick or you don't have a dick. If you do, you are a dude. If you do not, you are a woman. That should be what is on your birth certificate. Now, down the road if you wanna change and lop that sucker off or do the famous adadicktome procedure, then you can legally change your gender. I don't see why this is so difficult.
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Old 10-22-2018, 08:18 AM   #19
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What difference does it make?

Why does the government need to get involved in anyone's pants?
It could potentially be helpful to know for sure who can be grabbed by the natural pussy.
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Old 10-22-2018, 08:23 AM   #20
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What difference does it make?

Why does the government need to get involved in anyone's pants?
There are some things the government does, like incarceration, that vary depending on gender. That's the only reason I can think of.
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Old 10-22-2018, 09:06 AM   #21
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You either have a dick or you don't have a dick. If you do, you are a dude. If you do not, you are a woman. That should be what is on your birth certificate. Now, down the road if you wanna change and lop that sucker off or do the famous adadicktome procedure, then you can legally change your gender. I don't see why this is so difficult.
What if one just wears a strap on ? Is one's gender changed during that time?
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Old 10-22-2018, 09:18 AM   #22
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What if one just wears a strap on ? Is one's gender changed during that time?
Are you trolling Niner?
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Old 10-22-2018, 09:28 AM   #23
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What if one just wears a strap on ? Is one's gender changed during that time?
Only if the guy screams like a bitch I guess. Hell, I don't know.
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Old 10-22-2018, 09:36 AM   #24
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I heard the dude your referring to, is only 1/1024 female, but that's close enough,according to some people within our government.
Kind of like Elizabeth Warren being Native American
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Old 10-22-2018, 09:49 AM   #25
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Old 10-22-2018, 10:07 AM   #26
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Nah, it should all be a choice.

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Old 10-22-2018, 10:49 AM   #27
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What exactly is supposed to be the effect of this policy?

Why would a trans person give a **** about the gender that the Department of Housing or whoever applies to them? I suppose if someone has business at the Housing Department and needs to use the restroom, well, it might be an issue. Otherwise? Who cares.
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Old 10-22-2018, 10:56 AM   #28
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What exactly is supposed to be the effect of this policy?

Why would a trans person give a **** about the gender that the Department of Housing or whoever applies to them? I suppose if someone has business at the Housing Department and needs to use the restroom, well, it might be an issue. Otherwise? Who cares.
If nobody cares, then why don't we just leave it the way it has been since the begining of time? If you have an outie, you are a boy. If you have an innie, you are a girl. If you just barely have an outie, you are a Caucasian






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Old 10-22-2018, 10:58 AM   #29
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I see zero problem with this. If your genes say you're a man, you're a man. You can make yourself look like whatever you want, just don't try competing in sports, etc. or take advantage of situations because you "feel" like you are something different.
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Old 10-22-2018, 11:00 AM   #30
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What if one just wears a strap on ? Is one's gender changed during that time?
Your personal life isn't relevant to this conversation.
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