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Old 01-10-2009, 11:31 PM  
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Survey of Draft Websites: Chiefs will pick...

Matthew Stafford, QB, Georgia
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft0...odd&id=3803148

Brian Orakpo, DE, Texas
http://www.draftseason.com/lupagus-nfl-mock-draft

Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma
http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2009.php

Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma
http://newnfldraft.com/

Aaron Curry, OLB Wake Forest
http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Mock-Draft-A.php

Brian Orakpo, DE, Texas
http://www.footballsfuture.com/2009/nflmockdraft.html

James Laurinaitis, LB, Ohio State
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/7...raft-round-one

This site compiles draft 'experts' picks. Out of the top 25, only 3 have Bradford falling to the Chiefs at #3 while 9 have Matt Stafford falling to the 3rd overrall (!) and 3 have Orakpo and 3 have Curry being selected as the 3rd overall pick. Just 12 of 25 project a QB to be selected as the 3rd overall (assuming most realize KC has the #3 pick). 10 of the 25 have defensive players being selected #3.

The rationale provided by many of the draft websites is that the Chiefs should continue to develop Tyler Thigpen and draft to address the NFL's worst _efense which set an NFL record for fewest sacks in league history.

Of course the X factor is the new GM, but I thought it was interesting that Sam Bradford was not a slam dunk for most draft web sites, and fewer than 50% see Kansas City drafting a QB at all.

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Old 01-11-2009, 01:07 AM   #31
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Dude, I said trade down, but "you can't pick this player at this point" is getting tired. If that player is the BPA you select him (Derrick Thomas, Junior Seau)
Derrick Thomas was a rush backer.... I don't believe non rushers backers are worth a pick that high, he'd have to literally be a every year pro bowler.
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Old 01-11-2009, 01:08 AM   #32
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Uh, completion % and QB rating are not the only stats. Thigpen threw, ran or caught for 22 TDs, way more than either Flacco or Ryan. And he had to dig an offense out of a hole after playing back up to the back up QB all camp and early in the season and could not count on his _efense for anything.

I commend both Ryan and Flacco for guiding their teams to 11-5 seasons and the playoffs. But they have far superior supporting casts.
You do understand the Chiefs ran a gimmick offense predicated on letting the QB make easy throws and throwing all the time...I'd hope he had alot of yards and TD's.
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Old 01-11-2009, 01:09 AM   #33
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Is Sanchez in the draft?
Sanchez and every significant underclassman has declared.

So you're high enough on Sanchez to take him at 3?


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Derrick Thomas was a rush backer.... I don't believe non rushers backers are worth a pick that high, he'd have to literally be a every year pro bowler.
Even the best LB prospects can easily disappoint if taken that high. Look at AJ Hawk. He's a solid player, but a solid OLB is never worth a top 5 pick.
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Old 01-11-2009, 01:09 AM   #34
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Derrick Thomas was a rush backer.... I don't believe non rushers backers are worth a pick that high, he'd have to literally be a every year pro bowler.


Dude, at Alabama he did both blitzing and coverage
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Old 01-11-2009, 01:11 AM   #35
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Uh, completion % and QB rating are not the only stats. Thigpen threw, ran or caught for 22 TDs, way more than either Flacco or Ryan. And he had to dig an offense out of a hole after playing back up to the back up QB all camp and early in the season and could not count on his _efense for anything.

I commend both Ryan and Flacco for guiding their teams to 11-5 seasons and the playoffs. But they have far superior supporting casts.
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Old 01-11-2009, 01:11 AM   #36
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Sanchez and every significant underclassman has declared.

So you're high enough on Sanchez to take him at 3?




Even the best LB prospects can easily disappoint if taken that high. Look at AJ Hawk. He's a solid player, but a solid OLB is never worth a top 5 pick.
I liked AJ Hawk but I'd just never use a top 10 pick on a OLB unless like I said 3-4 rush backer.

I'd likely take Sanchez in the spot if he persay didn't come out, I'd then default to my opinion the best player best upside player in this draft and take Taylor Mays.
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Old 01-11-2009, 01:11 AM   #37
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Curry or Laurinaitis at 3 are pure insanity.
Curry isn't amazing. And he's not a Maualuga or a Cushing, who may be the product of their teammate. He does it all by himself. He would be a solid pick.
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Old 01-11-2009, 01:13 AM   #38
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Curry isn't amazing. And he's not a Maualuga or a Cushing, who may be the product of their teammate. He does it all by himself. He would be a solid pick.
That can be a problem.....playing with other players like the SC guys you mentioned means they understand scheme and assignment discipline better than a guy who has to be a 1 man team...
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Old 01-11-2009, 01:15 AM   #39
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Just to clarify I'm still on the Sanchez/Stafford bandwagon
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Old 01-11-2009, 01:16 AM   #40
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Old 01-11-2009, 01:17 AM   #41
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Sanchez and every significant underclassman has declared.

So you're high enough on Sanchez to take him at 3?
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Old 01-11-2009, 01:18 AM   #42
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Wins: Thigpen - 2; Ryan - 11; Flacco - 11
YPA: Thigpen - 6.2; Ryan - 7.9; Flacco- 6.9
And YPA is pretty much the most important stat for evaluating qbs.
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Old 01-11-2009, 01:18 AM   #43
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It was a hypothetical scenerio.
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Old 01-11-2009, 01:18 AM   #44
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And YPA is pretty much the most important stat for evaluating qbs.
Pretty much.
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