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Old 01-14-2014, 08:54 AM  
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**** OFFICIAL 2013-2014 Kansas Basketball Repository Thread, Part 2 ****
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Old 02-18-2014, 12:28 PM   #1741
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This is like arguing that because KU won by 30 over TCU without Embiid rather than 22 with him, that KU is a better team without him. If you seriously think Marcus Smart hurts his team rather than helps, you both don't understand what you're watching nor do you understand how to read his statistics.
I didn't say he hurts the team overall, but his play in the past month clearly wasn't helping... he wasn't the only thing holding them together while flopping around, going 3/14 from the field, and hitting 10 FTs. They can make up 10 or 15 points with a higher percentage of quality possessions.

I hated to bring up one game, because one or 3 games is obviously too small of a sample to determine anything, but the fact is they haven't won a game in a month. When Smart is playing well, of course he's going to elevate the team... and love him or hate him, it's pretty clear he wasn't doing that in the few weeks before his suspension.
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Old 02-18-2014, 01:40 PM   #1742
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I didn't say he hurts the team overall, but his play in the past month clearly wasn't helping... he wasn't the only thing holding them together while flopping around, going 3/14 from the field, and hitting 10 FTs. They can make up 10 or 15 points with a higher percentage of quality possessions.

I hated to bring up one game, because one or 3 games is obviously too small of a sample to determine anything, but the fact is they haven't won a game in a month. When Smart is playing well, of course he's going to elevate the team... and love him or hate him, it's pretty clear he wasn't doing that in the few weeks before his suspension.
You're ignoring that even when he doesn't shoot well, he still helps in other areas (such as playmaking, FT ability, and elite level defense). It may not make up entirely for going 3 for 14 from the field in a given game, but he still does things that nobody else on that team is capable of doing.

And if he plays at the level he's established over the last 2 seasons, you're getting not only one of the best players in the B12, but one of the better players in the country. This isn't disputable.
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Old 02-18-2014, 01:48 PM   #1743
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The other thing is that they are still trying to have Markel (sp?) Brown trying to drive the basket, and he's awful at it. If nothing else, having Smart back would allow Brown to NOT drive the rim.

Either way, interesting stats Bearcat. Hadn't thought of it that way.
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Old 02-18-2014, 01:50 PM   #1744
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The other thing is that they are still trying to have Markel (sp?) Brown trying to drive the basket, and he's awful at it. If nothing else, having Smart back would allow Brown to NOT drive the rim.

Either way, interesting stats Bearcat. Hadn't thought of it that way.
Without Smart, OSU's offense is basically Brown and Nash isolation plays. It limits the effectiveness and efficiency of all their players, especially Forte (who can't create his own shot) and Brown (who is forced into doing things that he isn't comfortable with).
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Old 02-18-2014, 03:54 PM   #1745
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Without Smart, OSU's offense is basically Brown and Nash isolation plays. It limits the effectiveness and efficiency of all their players, especially Forte (who can't create his own shot) and Brown (who is forced into doing things that he isn't comfortable with).
Predicting the future here, but Forte will rape KU from 3 land in a few weeks...

We can never stop the jank ass white guy....
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Old 02-18-2014, 03:58 PM   #1746
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Predicting the future here, but Forte will rape KU from 3 land in a few weeks...

We can never stop the jank ass white guy....
Yes, and he'll be coming off screens and getting passes from other players like Smart when he does so, not creating his own shot.
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Yes, and he'll be coming off screens and getting passes from other players like Smart when he does so, not creating his own shot.
So he will have help when he starts rape?
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So he will have help when he starts rape?
that would be called a gang-rape, no?
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that would be called a gang-rape, no?

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If they can beat UT, they'll be looking at a 3 game lead with 4 to play. So really, this Saturday is pretty much for the conference.
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