Football I'm calling it now: EJ Manuel will the #1 pick by the Chiefs - Page 10

Fat Elvis · 02-22-2013, 11:34 PM

I know this won't be popular, but I think this will be the guy that the Chiefs pick as their franchise QB. There are a couple of reasons for this: 1) I think mentally and in terms of leadership, this guy will knock it out of the park at the combine. This guy knows real adversity. This past year he played ball and kept his head in the game even though his mother was battling cancer. 2) He doesn't fold during big games. He is only the second college QB in history to win four straight bowl games. 3) He played in a pro-style offense while at FSU. 4) He has the measurables to be a truly franchise QB-- he can both pass and run (if needed) giving our O an added dimension we hadn't had in the past. 5) He isn't afraid of competition; he went to the senior bowl and wound up MVP. 6) The guy is tough as nails; he played with a broken leg during the 2011 Champs Sports Bowl Game in a Victory over Notre Dame.

Yeah, he has quite a few negatives, and a lot of you just flat out hate him--but given Dorsey's comments about how impressed he was with Russell Wilson's interview last year--I think Manuel will give a similar impression of his leadership and maturity to coaches this year.

Reid isn't afraid to take a QB that others rate lower than the consensus; McNabb was the 4th rated QB in his class when Andy drafted him.

While at this point I'd still rather have Geno, I'm prepping myself to like Manuel as I think he has a chnace to be the dark horse pick by the Chiefs. (And no, he won't be there in the second round; I think the senior bowl and the combine will really elevate his stock.)

B14ckmon · 02-23-2013, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandusksuna

He still sucks to high heaven. Anyone else who doesn't agree needs to remove themselves from society.

He is so much better than Bray it's ridiculous.

Frankie · 02-23-2013, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannibal

I wasn't. I looked him up. Admittedly, it was a highlight video, so I only saw positives.

I stand corrected then. I thought you were being funny about how EVERYONE looks like a world beater on highlight clips.

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Originally Posted by SNR

Geno Smith is considered by 99% of people to be a top QB in this class.

98.6% to be exact.

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Originally Posted by suds79

I think it's a moot point to compare EJ to Gino. we all know the Chiefs are probably not going to draft Gino with the number 1 pick. that being said, I think EJ should be in the conversation for that second rounder.

it just depends what quarterbacks are left.

Reason based posts are so refreshing. Thanks.

Frankie · 02-23-2013, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannibal

OVERVIEW
Kaepernick has enough physical tools to be viewed as a developmental backup quarterback prospect. Experienced, competitive, productive and durable but very raw in terms of making NFL reads and throws. Will need to become accustomed to making pro-style progressions and must improve overall accuracy. Arm strength is good but needs to tighten up his delivery and work on getting the ball out on time with more consistency. Can make a lot of plays with his feet but will be too confident at times and take unnecessary sacks. Kaepernick will likely attract a team with his measurables and outstanding intangibles. His stock has risen considerably with solid workouts, so expect him to be taken some time in the second to third round.

I SO wanted him for the Chiefs in the 2nd round.

htismaqe · 02-23-2013, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie

98.6% to be exact.

Is it a coincidence that the human body temperature is 98.6 degrees and anybody with a pulse knows Geno is the best QB in this class?

Frankie · 02-23-2013, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Is it a coincidence that the human body temperature is 98.6 degrees and anybody with a pulse knows Geno is the best QB in this class?

B14ckmon · 02-23-2013, 06:07 PM

As someone who spent a lot of time on other teams boards last year as well, it's remarkable how similar the talks of Wilson last year, are to talks of Manuel this year.

"He could climb up a lot of boards"

"I don't know I still see him in the late 2nd or 3rd round"

Though obviously each player has different negatives.

KCDC · 02-23-2013, 07:22 PM

If he's the second QB we take in the draft, I'm okay with that.

kcbubb · 02-24-2013, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

They are IF you pile them up against SEC teams especially going against BAMA and LSU.

It's all about the competition you are facing.

That's true. But most people don't quote stats against those teams.

Pasta Little Brioni · 02-24-2013, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by B14ckmon

As someone who spent a lot of time on other teams boards last year as well, it's remarkable how similar the talks of Wilson last year, are to talks of Manuel this year.

"He could climb up a lot of boards"

"I don't know I still see him in the late 2nd or 3rd round"

Though obviously each player has different negatives.

As a passer, Wilson was leaps and bounds better than Manuel. Bad comparison. If the dude was 6'2" he'd have gone ahead of Tannehill.

B14ckmon · 02-24-2013, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by PGM

As a passer, Wilson was leaps and bounds better than Manuel. Bad comparison. If the dude was 6'2" he'd have gone ahead of Tannehill.

Myth. His last year was the first time he threw over 60% in a season, and he did it by throwing the ball more than 200 times less than his junior year.

Pasta Little Brioni · 02-24-2013, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by B14ckmon

Myth. His last year was the first time he threw over 60% in a season, and he did it by throwing the ball more than 200 times less than his junior year.

Manuel's a joke

**Bowser** · 02-24-2013, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by B14ckmon

He is so much better than Bray it's ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by B14ckmon

Myth. His last year was the first time he threw over 60% in a season, and he did it by throwing the ball more than 200 times less than his junior year.

MartiniusImperator · 02-27-2013, 01:48 PM

Does the recent acquisition of Alex Smith open up a possibility of drafting Manuel?

I do not believe that he will still be available in the 3rd round, but if we decide to move out of the first pick and acquire several picks Manuel would be a great target IMO. Most believe he would not be ready right out of college, we roll with Smith a year or two and then have our young QB hopefully groomed by Reid who can step in and hopefully be our QBOTF.

NJChiefsFan · 02-27-2013, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MartiniusImperator

Does the recent acquisition of Alex Smith open up a possibility of drafting Manuel?

I do not believe that he will still be available in the 3rd round, but if we decide to move out of the first pick and acquire several picks Manuel would be a great target IMO. Most believe he would not be ready right out of college, we roll with Smith a year or two and then have our young QB hopefully groomed by Reid who can step in and hopefully be our QBOTF.

I don't think he will be around in the 3rd. EVEN if the Chiefs wanted to spend a 3rd on him which they may not. We are going to get raped if we trade down.

crossbow · 02-27-2013, 01:58 PM

I doubt they make that pick it wanders dangerously close to a smart move.

02-22-2013, 11:34 PM
Fat Elvis Sexiest Athlete Join Date: Apr 2001 Casino cash: $1591925	I'm calling it now: EJ Manuel will the #1 pick by the Chiefs I know this won't be popular, but I think this will be the guy that the Chiefs pick as their franchise QB. There are a couple of reasons for this: 1) I think mentally and in terms of leadership, this guy will knock it out of the park at the combine. This guy knows real adversity. This past year he played ball and kept his head in the game even though his mother was battling cancer. 2) He doesn't fold during big games. He is only the second college QB in history to win four straight bowl games. 3) He played in a pro-style offense while at FSU. 4) He has the measurables to be a truly franchise QB-- he can both pass and run (if needed) giving our O an added dimension we hadn't had in the past. 5) He isn't afraid of competition; he went to the senior bowl and wound up MVP. 6) The guy is tough as nails; he played with a broken leg during the 2011 Champs Sports Bowl Game in a Victory over Notre Dame. Yeah, he has quite a few negatives, and a lot of you just flat out hate him--but given Dorsey's comments about how impressed he was with Russell Wilson's interview last year--I think Manuel will give a similar impression of his leadership and maturity to coaches this year. Reid isn't afraid to take a QB that others rate lower than the consensus; McNabb was the 4th rated QB in his class when Andy drafted him. While at this point I'd still rather have Geno, I'm prepping myself to like Manuel as I think he has a chnace to be the dark horse pick by the Chiefs. (And no, he won't be there in the second round; I think the senior bowl and the combine will really elevate his stock.)
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B14ckmon Jagwire Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Cedar Rapids, IA Casino cash: $10004900	As someone who spent a lot of time on other teams boards last year as well, it's remarkable how similar the talks of Wilson last year, are to talks of Manuel this year. "He could climb up a lot of boards" "I don't know I still see him in the late 2nd or 3rd round" Though obviously each player has different negatives. __________________ Luke Joeckel - Chiefs LT of the Future!
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KCDC Starter Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $9736110	If he's the second QB we take in the draft, I'm okay with that.
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MartiniusImperator Rookie Join Date: Feb 2013 Casino cash: $10004900	Does the recent acquisition of Alex Smith open up a possibility of drafting Manuel? I do not believe that he will still be available in the 3rd round, but if we decide to move out of the first pick and acquire several picks Manuel would be a great target IMO. Most believe he would not be ready right out of college, we roll with Smith a year or two and then have our young QB hopefully groomed by Reid who can step in and hopefully be our QBOTF.
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02-27-2013, 01:58 PM	#150
crossbow King of Sarcasm Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: at home Casino cash: $10004900	I doubt they make that pick it wanders dangerously close to a smart move. __________________ If the mind were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't.
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