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Old 10-18-2012, 04:56 PM  
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Scott Pioli's PFF rating

If you could give Scott Pioli a PFF rating, how would you go about it?

Since the NFL is a "what have you done for me lately" league, let's tally up the latest ratings of all the players he's drafted, or acquired in free agency.

If the player is no longer a Chief, or no longer in the NFL, we'll use their last known rating. Players with negligible snaps are excluded (Colin Brown, Quinten Lawrence, Jalil Brown, Cyrus Gray, etc).

Pioli Drafts

2009

Tyson Jackson: -2.5
Alex Magee: -5.2
Donald Washington: -7.7
Jake O'Connell: -5.2

Ryan Succop: 8.7


2010

Eric Berry: -9.8
Dexter McCluster: -0.3
Javier Arenas: -0.5

Jon Asamoah: 9.6
Tony Moeaki: -5.7
Kendrick Lewis: -2.6
Cameron Sheffield: -4.8


2011

Jonathan Baldwin: 0.0
Rodney Hudson: 4.6
Justin Houston: 12.4

Allen Bailey: -5.0
Jerrell Powe: -1.5


2012

Dontari Poe: -3.0
Jeff Allen: -10.6



Pioli Free agents/Trades

2009

Matt Cassel: -3.1
Mike Vrabel: -9.0
Chris Chambers: -6.6
Leonard Pope: -14.1
Lance Long: -6.7
Mike Goff: -7.1
Sean Ryan: -15.5

Corey Mays: -22.2
Mike Brown: -4.9
Bobby Wade: -9.3
Andy Alleman: -9.1
Travis Daniels: -4.5
Mike Richardson: -2.8
Tim Castille: -2.1

Ike Ndukwe: 3.7
Terrance Copper: 1.4
Jovan Belcher: 0.1
Ryan O'Callaghan: 6.5 (how the **** did this happen)


2010

Thomas Jones: -8.4
Tyler Palko: -14.6

Verran Tucker: 2.5
Casey Wiegmann: 6.4
Ryan Lilja: 12.5
Shaun Smith: 9.3
Reshard Langford: 0.1


2011

Sabby Piscitelli: -8.0
Steve Breaston: -0.7
Jerheme Urban: -2.1
Keary Colbert: -0.8
Anthony Becht: -0.9
Le'Ron McClain: -0.8
Amon Gordon: -0.4

Steve Maneri: 2.4
Kelly Greg: 0.6


2012

Brady Quinn: -2.0
Ropati Pitoitua: -6.3
Stanford Routt: -4.8
Jacques Reeves: -2.4
Shaun Draughn: -2.6
Peyton Hillis: -1.5

Abram Elam: 2.2
Kevin Boss: 1.8
Eric Winston: 6.5
Nate Eachus: 1.8



TOTAL DRAFT RATING:
19 players, -29.1 rating, average:
-1.53

TOTAL FA/TRADE RATING:
44 players, -115.6 rating, average:
-2.62

THIS "GM" IS FAIL.

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Old 10-18-2012, 06:48 PM   #31
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Why is Mark Bradley on here?

He was with the Chiefs in 08.
My bad.

That raised Pioli's grade a whole .15.

BALLA ASS
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Old 10-18-2012, 06:50 PM   #32
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My bad.

That raised Pioli's grade a whole .15.

BALLA ASS
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Old 10-18-2012, 06:50 PM   #33
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I'm surprised to see Breaston's number so low.
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Old 10-18-2012, 06:54 PM   #34
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I'm surprised to see Breaston's number so low.
I *could* use his rating from 2011.

But that wouldn't be proper, since his current rating is a product of being unfairly benched by our idiot GM.
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Old 10-18-2012, 07:07 PM   #35
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Dontari Poe is only .5 difference grade from Tyson Jackson.

Poe was drafted 15th, its only his 6th game
Tyson Jackson was drafted 3rd overall, it's his 4th season

That's ****ing depressing in the case of a 3rd overall pick which should have been a foundation piece/cant **** up draft pick.

That's the problem with most of these guys. They are JUST A GUY. They dont improve, they have no impact, there is no potential. It's all propaganda.
Tell me who's improved on this team since Haley left?
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Old 10-18-2012, 07:28 PM   #36
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The conclusive evidence is in the record.

We're just burying the guy at this point.

Look at that list, though. The lack of impact players, and even contributors, is staggering.

What's very evident: Scott is pretty good at finding you an offensive lineman, and he sucks at everything else.
That's the giant red turd in the turd pile, right there. The absence of a true impact guy is telling.

Especially considering the guys we ignored in the draft ... like Clay Mathews, for example ... 3 time pro-bowler already, 2010 NFC Defensive Player of the Year, Butkus Award winner, Sporting News NFL Defensive Player of the Year, etc. Or Raji. Or Orakpo. Or Cushing. Or Harvin. That's a lot of misses in one draft in exchange for Tyson Jackson.

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Old 10-18-2012, 07:30 PM   #37
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Old 10-18-2012, 07:31 PM   #38
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That's the giant red turd in the turd pile, right there. The absence of a true impact guy is telling.

Especially considering the guys we ignored in the draft ... like Clay Mathews, for example ... 3 time pro-bowler already, 2010 NFC Defensive Player of the Year, Butkus Award winner, Sporting News NFL Defensive Player of the Year, etc. Or Raji. Or Orakpo. Or Cushing. Or Harvin. That's a lot of misses in one draft in exchange for Tyson Jackson.

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TBF, everyone missed on Mathews. I can't forgive him for Orakpo or Cushing.
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Old 10-18-2012, 07:39 PM   #39
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TBF, everyone missed on Mathews. I can't forgive him for Orakpo or Cushing.
That's the kind of thing that tickles my testicles though, Mr. Sorter. I mean, if Pioligo is as brilliant as he claims (given his past statements regarding the "building" of the Patriots and all), one would think he wouldn't have let Mathews slip to 29 and, instead, negotiated one of his fabulous draft day trades or something.

But, of course, you're right about the rest. Honestly, he could have shot a ping-pong ball from his anus into a goldfish bowl full of consensus, first round prospects and done better in that particular draft.

That is not the kind of performance one expects from an NFL Executive Of The Century who earns $5 million a year.

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That's the kind of thing that tickles my testicles though, Mr. Sorter. I mean, if Pioligo is as brilliant as he claims (given his past statements regarding the "building" of the Patriots and all), one would think he wouldn't have let Mathews slip to 29 and, instead, negotiated one of his fabulous draft day trades or something.

But, of course, you're right about the rest. Honestly, he could have shot a ping-pong ball from his anus into a goldfish bowl full of consensus, first round prospects and done better in that particular draft.

That is not the kind of performance one expects from an NFL Executive Of The Century who earns $5 million a year.

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Of course Sr. Fax. Agree wholeheartedly.
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So, Succop cancels out 4x Matt Cassel.


Ratings fail.
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Of course Sr. Fax. Agree wholeheartedly.
It's just absurd that Pioligo has had the opportunity to pick so consistently high and have only one (Houston) potential impact player to show for it.

It's a travesty wrapped in an enigma inside a burrito stuffed in a Chinese midget lesbian's meat curtains.

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It's just absurd that Pioligo has had the opportunity to pick so consistently high and have only one (Houston) potential impact player to show for it.

It's a travesty wrapped in an enigma inside a burrito stuffed in a Chinese midget lesbian's meat curtains.

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Wait, Chinese midget?
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Old 10-18-2012, 08:09 PM   #44
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Here is the team built by Scott Pioli.


QB Matt Cassel
HB Shaun Draughn
LT Donald Stephenson
LG Jeff Allen
C Ryan Lilja
RG Jon Asamoah
RT Eric Winston

WR Jon Baldwin
WR Steve Breaston
WR Dexter McCluster
TE Tony Moeaki

DE Tyson Jackson
NT Dontari Poe
DE Ropati Pissandshitty
OLB Cameron Sheffield

OLB Justin Houston
ILB Jovan Belcher

ILB Corey Mays
CB Stanford Routt
CB Javier Arenas

FS Abram Elam
SS Eric Berry
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Old 10-18-2012, 08:11 PM   #45
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ON the roster GoChiefs posted, I can forgive Berry, Poe, Routt, Breaston, Moeaki, Allen, and Stephenson.


However, when you compare them to the players drafted immediately after them and our team needs, you start thinking "WTF!!!!!!!"
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