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Old 10-07-2012, 02:44 PM  
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Winston mad at the Fans

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Eric Winston was very angry at the cheering when Cassel got hurt. Held court w/ the media for a few min about that in the Chiefs locker room
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Old 10-08-2012, 03:24 PM   #856
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After all of this obviously orchestrated media barrage by Scott Pioli I can safely say that I've never hated a public figure more than I hate him.

This making-the-fans-the-bad-guy tactic, while effective so far, is just about the most shameful thing that a U.S. sports franchise has ever done.



WTF does this have to do with Pioli? Winston opened his mouth and the media ran with it just like they do with any other hint of drama they can pick up on.
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Old 10-08-2012, 03:25 PM   #857
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WTF does this have to do with Pioli? Winston opened his mouth and the media ran with it just like they do with any other hint of drama they can pick up on.
It's documented how Pioli influences the national media. Don't be naive.
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Old 10-08-2012, 03:26 PM   #858
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After all of this obviously orchestrated media barrage by Scott Pioli I can safely say that I've never hated a public figure more than I hate him.

This making-the-fans-the-bad-guy tactic, while effective so far, is just about the most shameful thing that a U.S. sports franchise has ever done.
Pioli is a little bitch plain and simple
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Old 10-08-2012, 03:27 PM   #859
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Don't ever go to the Chiefs Facebook page.
My God it's like walking into a reerun convention
They have been invading Chiefsplanet as of late also.
There are even some oldschoolers here that are blind as well... which is really sad considering the people that know football point everything out to them in great detail.... gif'd up, Declaration, etc.
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Old 10-08-2012, 03:34 PM   #860
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WTF does this have to do with Pioli? Winston opened his mouth and the media ran with it just like they do with any other hint of drama they can pick up on.
It couldn't be more transparent, Mr. Detoxing. It became obvious last night ...

Winston is a Pioli shill.

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You know what's really funny about this....Eric Winston has played a total of five (5) fucking games with KC and he is now their spokesman????

Give me a fucking break!

I've been here for 42 mother fucking years worshiping this team, 13 years before Winston was even born.

Take a seat buddy and wait your turn!!!!

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Old 10-08-2012, 03:39 PM   #862
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Give Van Pelt credit. He was very level-headed on his take, just like he always is.

He is the only guy that I can listen to without shaking my head on ESPN.


ESPN is still pushing, but some of the guys are starting to figure out that Winston let his emotion cloud his judgement. The backtracking started building slowly throughout the day.
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Old 10-08-2012, 03:45 PM   #863
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It's documented how Pioli influences the national media. Don't be naive.
I understand all the Pioli hate, but not putting my tin foil hat on and believing that Pioli is instigating a fight with the fans doesn't make me naive.

The National Media would've picked this up and ran with it regardless. They crave drama. Sensationalism. It's what they do.
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Old 10-08-2012, 03:46 PM   #864
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It couldn't be more transparent, Mr. Detoxing. It became obvious last night ...

Winston is a Pioli shill.

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Winston is vocal. Always has been. No, i don't think Pioli put him up to the task.
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Old 10-08-2012, 03:46 PM   #865
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Give Van Pelt credit. He was very level-headed on his take, just like he always is.

He is the only guy that I can listen to without shaking my head on ESPN.


ESPN is still pushing, but some of the guys are starting to figure out that Winston let his emotion cloud his judgement. The backtracking started building slowly throughout the day.
People that are more Twitter savvy than I should really try to get to Mike and Mike on this one.

Those 2 ****sticks really put us on the defensive this morning and it got worse from there.

Someone should get them that clip and ask them to review it. Then the immortal words of Michael Corleone should be particularly apt: "I hope JimNasium will have the decency to clear [our] name with the same publicity with which JimNasium have besmirched it.”

Chiefs fans got absolutely screwed in this deal. Decades of unwavering support for this shit-sandwich and suddenly we're the poster children for unruly fans.

That's just unbelievable and I'm hopeful that some of these bloviating sows will at least have the good graces to own up to it tomorrow.
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Old 10-08-2012, 03:48 PM   #866
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Winston is vocal. Always has been. No, i don't think Pioli put him up to the task.
Nor do I.

But you can bet your ass that Pioli was on the phone trying to push it as well.

Pioli has built up enough connections in this league that it wouldn't have been hard to get KCTV5 to forward that video clip to some people of influence. All he'd have needed was a couple of visible champions to slow the surge and it could've made a huge difference.

Instead we just keep getting torched because nobody in this organization has done shit to quell the national squawking. Afterall, if you quiet the noise, the story again becomes the ineffectiveness of your hand-picked QB.

Can't have that...
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It couldn't be more transparent, Mr. Detoxing. It became obvious last night ...

Winston is a Pioli shill.

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It also shows by the Chiefs PR staff doing absolutely nothing to get in front of this story and try to do some damage control or even spin it in their favor. They are letting a story about their fans being callous, bloodthirsty people run endlessly on ESPN and other national media outlets without any rebuttable.

This proves what an utter trainwreck the organization is from the very top to rock bottom.
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Old 10-08-2012, 03:58 PM   #868
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I understand all the Pioli hate, but not putting my tin foil hat on and believing that Pioli is instigating a fight with the fans doesn't make me naive.

The National Media would've picked this up and ran with it regardless. They crave drama. Sensationalism. It's what they do.
Dots, my friend. Dots.

As a scientist, explorer, and occasional cartoonist, it is my job to connect them. To wit ...

Dot 1: When encountering a disappointed fan, Chiefs FO suggests said fan get a clue.
Dot 2: Chiefs make clear that said fan has a choice to be a fan ... or not.
Dot 3: Cassel's game day performances tank as does that of the entire team and coaching staff.
Dot 4: Banner announcement goes viral.
Dot 5: Banner activity reported by local & national media.
Dot 6: Pioli is now fully aware of banner activity.
Dot 7: Cassel receives strange phone call during game.
Dot 8: During next series, Cassel receives strange head injury not involving head.
Dot 9: Winston brought in as FA by Pioli.
Dot 10: Winston berates fans while making sure all media outlets get story and agree to run it.
Dot 11: Babb reports that Pioli is certifiable and that Haley had legitimate reasons to feel paranoid.

Okay, there's 10 or so dots (there are more) inexorably leading to the unavoidable conclusion that Pioli feels he and Cassel are under fire. He, therefore, concocts a bizarre plot to get Cassel out of the way without admitting he was wrong about his quarterback (see Dots 7 & 8) and arranges for Winston to throw the entire fan base under the bus (see Dots 9 & 10), thus relieving him of negative public pressure while retaining his image as genius, wonder-worker, Executive Of The Century, and all-around savior to the world.

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It also shows by the Chiefs PR staff doing absolutely nothing to get in front of this story and try to do some damage control or even spin it in their favor. They are letting a story about their fans being callous, bloodthirsty people run endlessly on ESPN and other national media outlets without any rebuttable.

This proves what an utter trainwreck the organization is from the very top to rock bottom.
Absolutely, the last sentence is Gospel... this - finally - IS rock bottom.
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