Maybe Bob Dole had too much to drink, but the Grbashers lost all momentum today...

**Bob Dole** · 09-17-2000, 06:14 PM

Bob Dole may be typing something incorrectly, but he's run Elvis' numbers through 2 different calculators, and each one comes up with a QB Rating of 251.04.

Now Bob Dole may be a homer...but that reads to Bob Dole like some good shit.

Raiderhater · 09-17-2000, 06:20 PM

I would take issue with you Senator, but I don't criticize until the day after the victory. Today I cherish the the win. [img]http://www.ChiefsPlanet.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img]

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**Bob Dole** · 09-17-2000, 06:23 PM

Bob Dole would appreciate someone sober running EG's numbers through a QB Rating calculator...

Gracie Dean · 09-17-2000, 06:23 PM

I also think Elvis did great. I am willing to lay down my Elvis sword and admit that I was wrong. Elvis looked great (after the interception) and the match between Grbac and Morris looks very promising.

Raiderhater · 09-17-2000, 06:26 PM

Senator I'm not talking about numbers. I am talking about decisions. Actually I thought he looked better last week than he did today. Can you imagine what the game would've been like if they let him open up last week!

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**AustinChief** · 09-17-2000, 06:29 PM

I'm getting a rating of 120.14

...still pretty darn good.

--AustinChief
(waiting for Elvis to level off at about 150)

DaWolf · 09-17-2000, 06:30 PM

Had the recievers held on to the ball week one and had the leash been taken off game 2 we would be 3-0 and bowing at Elvis' feet. Alas...

**Bob Dole** · 09-17-2000, 06:35 PM

120 is still good, and Bob Dole is thinking there's a java bug that's generating the 200+ rating.

Elvis rathing would have been 108 (if memory serves) week one if the catchable passes had been hauled in. He again, today, looked off his primary receivers and went through his progession as one would expect. He threw 5 TDs and one INT, and Bob Dole is perfectly conetent, no matter what the QB rating.

Luzap · 09-17-2000, 07:34 PM

Elvis is a good QB that has a chance to be more than good.

In case anybody hasn't noticed, he's STILL getting better and better.

He finally has real weapons in Morris, Gonzales, Moreau, and TRich.

I have been talking about his potential and 'defending' him for years.

Luz
i rather enjoyed todays game...

KCJohnny · 09-17-2000, 07:58 PM

Don't look now folks, but Elvis is #1 in the AFC in the most important passer stat:
Touchdown passes!
Grbac should be the focus of the offense from here on out....

Clint in Wichita · 09-17-2000, 10:05 PM

The maximum possible QB rating is 158.6.

Hopefully Elvis can do what he did today 13 more times.

TheFly · 09-17-2000, 10:11 PM

I don't know what happened today, and frankly, I don't care. I'm pleased as punch at today's performance, from what I've been able to read.

I hope Gun has learned something. Don't mess with success Gun!<BR>

DaWolf · 09-17-2000, 10:47 PM

Seems like the Grbashers never lose their momentum. The latest outcry (at least that I've read so far) are "that was a fluke game" and "Moon would have done better."

What you gonna do. Like I said, the guy could throw 50 TD's, 1 INT, 5,000 yards, and throw a perfect pass to Derrick Alexander to win the Super Bowl that Alexander drops, and people would still hate Grbac...

09-18-2000, 07:52 AM

Elvis did well today. The playcalling was much better, however. It remains to be seen how he will respond if we go back to the "run & punt" offense.

I've never been a Grbacker or Grbasher, but I do expect some consistency. The first 4 or 5 passes he threw were floaters to the outside. Even before the INT, their corners were breaking on the ball from 10 deep. I saw the INT coming 2 or 3 plays before it happened.

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Luzap · 09-18-2000, 08:07 AM

htismaqe,

I don't believe it was the passes themselves that were the problem.

You are correct in saying that the D corners were keying on that pass, and that is why it was terrible playcalling to keep going back to that out pattern.

I had a friend over for the game and I pulled out a laser pointer and played 'Madden with the Tellistrator' for him.

It was obvious from the first time he threw that pass that the D had watched film and was expecting it. I continued to show him how unvaried our passing game was and what few routes we would be restricted to. I also calmly explained that because we have an apparent idiot making play calls, that we would be foolish enough to keep throwing that specific out pattern and that it would be intercepted for 7. That was one play before it actually happened.

Somewhere around the start of the second quarter, the play calling changed (thank goodness). As if somebody flipped a switch, the pass routes changed and our O became effective.

The ONLY explanation I can think of is that we scripted our first 15 plays, and ran them 'no matter what'. JR apparently started calling the game from that point on and (of course) did a better job of it.

Luz
just glad it worked out...

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09-17-2000, 06:20 PM	#2
Raiderhater **** the Raiders Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: A Webb of chaos Casino cash: $2192021	I would take issue with you Senator, but I don't criticize until the day after the victory. Today I cherish the the win. [img]http://www.ChiefsPlanet.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img] ; ------------------ WHEN THE GOING GETS TOUGH, THE TOUGH GET GOING! [This message has been edited by raiderhader (edited 09-17-2000).]
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09-17-2000, 06:23 PM	#3
Bob Dole King Shit of **** Mountain Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Texarkana, Texas Casino cash: $2614497	Bob Dole would appreciate someone sober running EG's numbers through a QB Rating calculator...
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09-17-2000, 06:23 PM	#4
Gracie Dean MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	I also think Elvis did great. I am willing to lay down my Elvis sword and admit that I was wrong. Elvis looked great (after the interception) and the match between Grbac and Morris looks very promising.
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09-17-2000, 06:26 PM	#5
Raiderhater **** the Raiders Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: A Webb of chaos Casino cash: $2192021	Senator I'm not talking about numbers. I am talking about decisions. Actually I thought he looked better last week than he did today. Can you imagine what the game would've been like if they let him open up last week! ------------------ WHEN THE GOING GETS TOUGH, THE TOUGH GET GOING!
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09-17-2000, 06:29 PM	#6
AustinChief Administrator Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Austin Casino cash: $2699112	I'm getting a rating of 120.14 ...still pretty darn good. --AustinChief (waiting for Elvis to level off at about 150)
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09-17-2000, 06:14 PM
Bob Dole King Shit of **** Mountain Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Texarkana, Texas Casino cash: $2614497	Bob Dole may be typing something incorrectly, but he's run Elvis' numbers through 2 different calculators, and each one comes up with a QB Rating of 251.04. Now Bob Dole may be a homer...but that reads to Bob Dole like some good shit.
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09-17-2000, 06:30 PM	#7
DaWolf Cry havoc... Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10007725	Had the recievers held on to the ball week one and had the leash been taken off game 2 we would be 3-0 and bowing at Elvis' feet. Alas...
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09-17-2000, 06:35 PM	#8
Bob Dole King Shit of **** Mountain Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Texarkana, Texas Casino cash: $2614497	120 is still good, and Bob Dole is thinking there's a java bug that's generating the 200+ rating. Elvis rathing would have been 108 (if memory serves) week one if the catchable passes had been hauled in. He again, today, looked off his primary receivers and went through his progession as one would expect. He threw 5 TDs and one INT, and Bob Dole is perfectly conetent, no matter what the QB rating.
Posts: 48,522

09-17-2000, 07:34 PM	#9
Luzap 9.89 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Dallas, TX Casino cash: $10004900	Elvis is a good QB that has a chance to be more than good. In case anybody hasn't noticed, he's STILL getting better and better. He finally has real weapons in Morris, Gonzales, Moreau, and TRich. I have been talking about his potential and 'defending' him for years. Luz i rather enjoyed todays game...
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09-17-2000, 07:58 PM	#10
KCJohnny Blind, deceived homer Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Maryland, USA Casino cash: $10004900	Don't look now folks, but Elvis is #1 in the AFC in the most important passer stat: Touchdown passes! Grbac should be the focus of the offense from here on out....
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09-17-2000, 10:05 PM	#11
Clint in Wichita Veteran Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	The maximum possible QB rating is 158.6. Hopefully Elvis can do what he did today 13 more times.
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09-17-2000, 10:11 PM	#12
TheFly Never Regular... Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Irvine, CA, USA Casino cash: $10004900	I don't know what happened today, and frankly, I don't care. I'm pleased as punch at today's performance, from what I've been able to read. I hope Gun has learned something. Don't mess with success Gun!<BR>
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09-17-2000, 10:47 PM	#13
DaWolf Cry havoc... Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10007725	Seems like the Grbashers never lose their momentum. The latest outcry (at least that I've read so far) are "that was a fluke game" and "Moon would have done better." What you gonna do. Like I said, the guy could throw 50 TD's, 1 INT, 5,000 yards, and throw a perfect pass to Derrick Alexander to win the Super Bowl that Alexander drops, and people would still hate Grbac...
Posts: 6,798

09-18-2000, 07:52 AM	#14
htismaqe Guest Casino cash: $	Elvis did well today. The playcalling was much better, however. It remains to be seen how he will respond if we go back to the "run & punt" offense. I've never been a Grbacker or Grbasher, but I do expect some consistency. The first 4 or 5 passes he threw were floaters to the outside. Even before the INT, their corners were breaking on the ball from 10 deep. I saw the INT coming 2 or 3 plays before it happened. ------------------ Parker [b]ChiefsPlanet Administrator[/b] [i]Jimmy Raye for President...anything to get him out of Kansas City[/i] [i]More Moreau</I>
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09-18-2000, 08:07 AM	#15
Luzap 9.89 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Dallas, TX Casino cash: $10004900	htismaqe, I don't believe it was the passes themselves that were the problem. You are correct in saying that the D corners were keying on that pass, and that is why it was terrible playcalling to keep going back to that out pattern. I had a friend over for the game and I pulled out a laser pointer and played 'Madden with the Tellistrator' for him. It was obvious from the first time he threw that pass that the D had watched film and was expecting it. I continued to show him how unvaried our passing game was and what few routes we would be restricted to. I also calmly explained that because we have an apparent idiot making play calls, that we would be foolish enough to keep throwing that specific out pattern and that it would be intercepted for 7. That was one play before it actually happened. Somewhere around the start of the second quarter, the play calling changed (thank goodness). As if somebody flipped a switch, the pass routes changed and our O became effective. The ONLY explanation I can think of is that we scripted our first 15 plays, and ran them 'no matter what'. JR apparently started calling the game from that point on and (of course) did a better job of it. Luz just glad it worked out... [This message has been edited by Luzap (edited 09-18-2000).]
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