Would you rather be 8-0 with Alex Smith or 3-5 with Geno?

[-King-]

Our offense is terrible with Alex Smith. It would likely be worse with Geno given his propensity to turn the ball over and give the other teams points through pick 6s and returned fumbles for TDs. So seeing as how we barely win with the offense we have now, we'd have likely lost more than a few games if we had Geno as our QB.

But would you rather take those growing pains with Geno, or be 8-0 with Alex and be in the driver seat toward a first round bye in the playoffs?

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by Phobia

We would be 9-0 with 0 sacks, hurries, hits, and pressures. Also, we'd have a 2,475 yards passing.

Fixed?

[splatbass]

Considering how they dominate every discussion on this forum, it is interesting to see that only 13 would take Geno in this scenario. They sure make a lot of noise for a few people.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by splatbass

Considering how they dominate every discussion on this forum, it is interesting to see that only 13 would take Geno in this scenario. They sure make a lot of noise for a few people.

When you lead the league in turnovers and throw a pair of Pick Sixes on the way to to a 40 point loss, you gotta go with that guy every time.

[Discuss Thrower]

The Jets are at 4-4. If they lose out theyve exceeded the amount of wins the 1998 Colts had with Peyton Manning. They keep up at that pace they're the same record as the 2002 Charhers with Drew Brees. The win two more they've tied the 2004 Giants, and if they win no more than Geno has three more wins than Eli did.

In the next three or so years is Geno going to play to the level of Peyton from 1999 to 2001? Odds are, no. Brees until he got injured? Maybe not. Eli Manning from 2005 to 2008? Could he be any worse? What about Roethlisberger? Or Andy freaking Dalton?

You have to take a chance. It's better you go with the ghoul you're unsure of than the devil that you know well when it comes to QBs. We know Alex is a game manager who has to have an elite defense to win games in the regular season and hasn't overcome errors from the rest of the team to win in the postseason. We don't know that Geno is or is not a guy that can win games single handedly in weeks 1-17 and after. But you have to take that chance to determine or way or the other - otherwise a team is no better than the likes of Arizona, Minnesota or Buffalo (pre-2013) in acquiring other teams' castoffs to try and win.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

The Jets are at 4-4. If they lose out theyve exceeded the amount of wins the 1998 Colts had with Peyton Manning. They keep up at that pace they're the same record as the 2002 Charhers with Drew Brees. The win two more they've tied the 2004 Giants, and if they win no more than Geno has three more wins than Eli did.

In the next three or so years is Geno going to play to the level of Peyton from 1999 to 2001? Odds are, no. Brees until he got injured? Maybe not. Eli Manning from 2005 to 2008? Could he be any worse? What about Roethlisberger? Or Andy freaking Dalton?

You have to take a chance. It's better you go with the ghoul you're unsure of than the devil that you know well when it comes to QBs. We know Alex is a game manager who has to have an elite defense to win games in the regular season and hasn't overcome errors from the rest of the team to win in the postseason. We don't know that Geno is or is not a guy that can win games single handedly in weeks 1-17 and after. But you have to take that chance to determine or way or the other - otherwise a team is no better than the likes of Arizona, Minnesota or Buffalo (pre-2013) in acquiring other teams' castoffs to try and win.

No. You're talking out of your ass.

And shorten your prose.

Get to the ****ing point more quickly.

[RobBlake]

i've never seen a QB overrated as much as Geno Smith as you guys do. WOW lol There are better QBs in this draft than last years.

[TOUCHDOWN!!! KC]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Who in the hell would want to be 3-5?

Pretty much my thoughts.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

11 4th quarter comebacks and 13 game winning drives to date.

In how many years?

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

He had TWO INT's for touchdowns yesterday alone.

JFC, he's been awful this year. They've won two games on shitty, fluke penalties which allowed them to kick field goals. They should be 2-6.

I realize you probably aren't up yet when the Jets play, due to all of them wild celebrity parties you are hosting, but have you even watched him? Yes, he is still a rookie half way through his first season, but he clearly has more talent than the Alex Smith.

[The Bad Guy]

I'm speechless at the absolute stupidity.

You do understand, that just because we didn't take Geno Smith, have Alex Smith currently means absolutely nothing for quarterback evaluation in future drafts right?

Wow. People would rather be 3-5 with their guy as opposed to 8-0 without. That right there tells you how ****ing batshit crazy some of you are.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

LOL people still think we should have drafted Geno with the Number 1 pick.

8-0 and still dreaming of geno- the next Rams backup.

Actually, if the 2nd round pick hadn't been traded for recyled reject #17, Geno would have been there. They still could have used the 1.1 on the SAFE PICK, Eric Fisher.

But don't let the facts get in your WAY Halfcan.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I'm speechless at the absolute stupidity.

You do understand, that just because we didn't take Geno Smith, have Alex Smith currently means absolutely nothing for quarterback evaluation in future drafts right?

Wow. People would rather be 3-5 with their guy as opposed to 8-0 without. That right there tells you how ****ing batshit crazy some of you are.

Did someone actually say they would rather be 3-5? Anyone that thinks this team would be 3-5 with Geno, and Alex Smith is the difference between 3-5 and 8-0 IS BATSHIT CRAZY.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by -Luv-

Our offense is terrible with Alex Smith. It would likely be worse with Geno given his propensity to turn the ball over and give the other teams points through pick 6s and returned fumbles for TDs. So seeing as how we barely win with the offense we have now, we'd have likely lost more than a few games if we had Geno as our QB.

But would you rather take those growing pains with Geno, or be 8-0 with Alex and be in the driver seat toward a first round bye in the playoffs?

What would our Sagarin rating be with Geno. That is the important question.

[Mosbonian]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I'm speechless at the absolute stupidity.

You do understand, that just because we didn't take Geno Smith, have Alex Smith currently means absolutely nothing for quarterback evaluation in future drafts right?

Wow. People would rather be 3-5 with their guy as opposed to 8-0 without. That right there tells you how ****ing batshit crazy some of you are.

Frank....don't try and reason with people who can't see the big picture. The reality is that many teams passed on Geno Smith because they see something the Jets didn't. He could develop into a decent QB over time, but with all the pressure in NY I am seeing a rough year or 2 for him.

With all the right moves that Reid and Dorsey have made thus far I am more inclined to trust their judgment that Smith didn't have the tools for the Offense they want to build here.

But evidently some believe they have more insight than those 2.

[Mosbonian]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

Did someone actually say they would rather be 3-5? Anyone that thinks this team would be 3-5 with Geno, and Alex Smith is the difference between 3-5 and 8-0 IS BATSHIT CRAZY.

No...I think Andy Reid is the difference between 3-5 and 8-0. And I guess I will trust his judgment that Geno wasn't the QB he wanted.