Chiefs Q&A rookie camp day II and some Jackson action - Page 2

LaChapelle · 03:41 PM

Q&A with TODD HALEY - 5/9
May 09, 2009, 3:46:27 PM

Rookie Mini-Camp

Q: How did it today go?

TODD HALEY: “Today a little more was put in offensively and defensively. It was probably worse than yesterday, which is probably to be expected. Plus, they’re sore since it’s the first real football stuff they’ve done in a while. Most of these guys have kind of been in that combine training mode and this is really the first time they’ve been out there (on the practice field) running around and doing football stuff in quite a while. So, there are some guys feeling sorry for themselves.”

Q: Is conditioning an issue with these guys?

HALEY: “Oh yeah, the whole group. They’ve got a long way to go; they’ve got some catching up to do.”

Q: Is that surprising?

HALEY: “It’s different training for the combine. So many of these guys have been on the tour visiting teams and on planes, being served the big meals. There’s not a lot of training time in there and that’s the trap they can all easily fall into.”

Q: Athletically is Jackson everything you thought he would be just watching him out there?

HALEY: “Yeah, again we had Tyson in here and interviewed him at the combine. We had him here for two days so I pretty much knew what he looked like. He actually lost a few pounds since we saw him which is good. I’m really excited about the player but, again, he’s got a long way to go understanding everything, conditioning-wise, all those things. But as far as two days out there I’m excited about the player.”

Q: Is Magee athletic enough to play that end position in your defense?

HALEY: “Yeah, that was one of the things that was a big positive on Magee. It was his versatility, that he had done both (tackle and end). It remains to be seen, but when we took him we believed he could play either position. We found value in that but he’s come in and been impressive so far athletically.”

Q: You drafted a kicker and kick returner. You and Scott (Pioli) talked about Washington’s ability in special teams. This is intentional, right, to address special teams?

HALEY: “We want competition in as many positions as we can and the kicker was somebody that our special teams coach, Steve Hoffman, had gone and worked out and really liked. I don’t know you know much about him, but Coach Hoffman is one of the few special team coaches that is really a technical teacher. What he’s done for really the last 19 years is teach kickers and punters technique and actually works with them on mechanics.

“He worked him out, tinkered with his approach on some kickoffs and the kid responded. He thought he had a chance to be a real good kicker in the league. We’re excited about the opportunity to bring him in.

“I’ve told everybody here that if you can be a better than average punt and kick returner you’ve got a very good chance to make this team because I don’t know if we have one right now. That’s a great opportunity for somebody, so that’s definitely an area that we went into the draft and off-season knowing that we needed to find somebody.”

Q: Is that what you liked about Lawrence specifically?

HALEY: “No, we think that Lawrence has a chance to be a receiver also - again, the more you can do and the more plays you can play. If you can be a fourth receiver and return all the kicks then that means you’re playing roughly 25 plays a game which is enough to be a game day roster guy. I’m not speculating on whether he can or can’t right now. He’s got a long way to go too.”

Q: Do you see Colin Brown as a project seeing that he played in the spread offense in college?

HALEY: “That’s always the big thing and we’re having to deal with it more and more with the way college is going with so much spread. There are some guys you know you’re going to be raw in some areas: the kid from Baylor was the same way, Jason Smith.

“But Colin Brown is like anybody else: it’s a level playing field and everybody is competing. I’m not looking at him as a developmental or anything right now. He’s big. I’ve been kind of impressed by the way he moves around and carries himself. He’s competing for a starting spot.”

Q: Magee and Jackson worked out together and trained. Were you aware those guys had some relationship prior to drafting them? Would you hope for that?

HALEY: “I would say that the fact that there was a relationship wasn’t a factor in (drafting) either guy. But we had both those players in here for two days, visited with them and in the course of those visits you find out a lot of things. A lot of those guys cross over and are working out together depending upon where they go in the country to do some of that pre-combine work.

“But, to me, it’s just an added bonus. As long as they weren’t fighting the whole time they were there training. It appeared they developed some type of relationship so that’s always good. It helps guys get acclimated and gives them some stability. I just look at it as a bonus.”

Q: Is there more pressure on those two than the others?

HALEY: “Well, there might be more pressure on them because of where they were drafted and the scrutiny that’s going to be on them as opposed to a free agent that nobody really knows about. As I told the whole group of them, I personally don’t care whether you’re a draft pick, a high one, a low one, a free agent, or a tryout guy. I’m very selfish as a coach and am gonna push to play the guys that give the Kansas City Chiefs the best chance to win and that’s the message I delivered to all of them. If there is more pressure on them ‘cause of media scrutiny, well….”

Q: Did you talk to Ryan Succup at all about being this Mr. Irrelevant?

HALEY: “It’s a worry because Mr. Irrelevant has become such a big thing that we just kind of reminded him that he was the last pick in the draft. So, he had his work cut out for him making this team and to try and not to be distracted any more than any of the other players. He has a job to try and win.”

Q: It seems like he has a pretty good attitude.

HALEY: “Yeah, I like his demeanor. That was one of the things that Coach Hoffman really liked about him. He is a pretty calm leveled guy. At that position and with the pressure that ends up being on those kickers that’s a big item. He carries himself well.”

Q: Who are your two quarterbacks out there?

HALEY: “Drew Tate, who is from Iowa two years ago, been in the CFL, been around and Chase Patton from Missouri, who was a backup to the other Chase.”

Q: Physically you must like Chase at 6'3", a prototype for a quarterback.

HALEY: “Yeah, he’s actually 6'4", a big good looking kid, good arm. Both those guys have come into a tough situation and got us through practice. They’re competing well.”

? ?@???A?

Jackson coming up -Q&A with a poop load -will just post the links

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/05...n_jackson__59/

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/05...lex_magee__59/

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/05...lin_brown__59/

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/05...an_succop__59/

Sweet Daddy Hate · 05-09-2009, 05:54 PM

Magee seems like a sharp tack. He definitely seems older than his age.

MoreLemonPledge · 05-09-2009, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaChapelle

Q: Do you see Colin Brown as a project seeing that he played in the spread offense in college?

HALEY: “That’s always the big thing and we’re having to deal with it more and more with the way college is going with so much spread. There are some guys you know you’re going to be raw in some areas: the kid from Baylor was the same way, Jason Smith.

“But Colin Brown is like anybody else: it’s a level playing field and everybody is competing. I’m not looking at him as a developmental or anything right now. He’s big. I’ve been kind of impressed by the way he moves around and carries himself. He’s competing for a starting spot.”

RTotF!

Sweet Daddy Hate · 05-09-2009, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge

RTotF!

To the 'Ship!

**TinyEvel** · 05-09-2009, 06:17 PM

RYAN SUCCOP:

Q: What is your range?

SUCCOP: “It depends on the day. I’ve messed around on the practice field and have hit from as far as 68 yards. It just depends on the day and the weather, I guess.”

Q: How many games did you miss because of the injury?

SUCCOP: “I didn’t miss any. I played through it.”

Print the ship!

bdeg · 05-09-2009, 07:02 PM

we're officially going 3-4.

i usually listen to these because they cut a bunch out.

magee says the only formation they've practiced is 3-4

also

this question "Q: Magee and Jackson worked out together and trained. Were you aware those guys had some relationship prior to drafting them? Would you hope for that?"
was unspeakably bad and whoever asked it should lose their pass

FAX · 05-09-2009, 07:05 PM

We all need to keep in mind that Haley is a rookie head coach. HC is a big deal in the NFL ... tons to know ... tons to do ... and tons of responsibility. The fact of the matter is that it will take awhile for him to figure out the best way to do his job ... let alone everybody else's.

His public remarks are all well and good, but talk is cheap. I foresee much bad before the much good comes around.

FAX

penchief · 05-09-2009, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX

We all need to keep in mind that Haley is a rookie head coach. HC is a big deal in the NFL ... tons to know ... tons to do ... and tons of responsibility. The fact of the matter is that it will take awhile for him to figure out the best way to do his job ... let alone everybody else's.

His public remarks are all well and good, but talk is cheap. I foresee much bad before the much good comes around.

FAX

You may be right but he seems like a real smart guy to me. I think he's aware of the limitations of a new head coach but I also think his deliberate approach will help him avoid a lot of the bad.

Groves · 05-09-2009, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaChapelle

“Coach Hoffman has been really good. When Coach Hoffman came to work me out before the draft he showed me something in five minutes. It was one of the most helpful things I have ever been shown as a kicker my whole career. That was pretty cool just how much of difference that has made.

Can you say......breath of fresh air? It was echoed in one of the Haley interviews, too. I'm liking Hoffman already, hope he's good.

Hydrae · 05-09-2009, 07:35 PM

I like how confident these guys are sounding right now. I am also somewhat amused because when the real pros come in next time these guys are going to be amazed at how much faster the bench guys are to say nothing of last years starters. They think things are fast now and it is just the rooks in town.

**Tribal Warfare** · 05-09-2009, 08:10 PM

Q: You drafted a kicker and kick returner. You and Scott (Pioli) talked about Washington’s ability in special teams. This is intentional, right, to address special teams?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Todd Haley

HALEY: “We want competition in as many positions as we can and the kicker was somebody that our special teams coach, Steve Hoffman, had gone and worked out and really liked. I don’t know you know much about him, but Coach Hoffman is one of the few special team coaches that is really a technical teacher. What he’s done for really the last 19 years is teach kickers and punters technique and actually works with them on mechanics.

“He worked him out, tinkered with his approach on some kickoffs and the kid responded. He thought he had a chance to be a real good kicker in the league. We’re excited about the opportunity to bring him in.

“I’ve told everybody here that if you can be a better than average punt and kick returner you’ve got a very good chance to make this team because I don’t know if we have one right now. That’s a great opportunity for somebody, so that’s definitely an area that we went into the draft and off-season knowing that we needed to find somebody.”

Q: Did you talk to Ryan Succup at all about being this Mr. Irrelevant?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Todd Haley

HALEY: “It’s a worry because Mr. Irrelevant has become such a big thing that we just kind of reminded him that he was the last pick in the draft. So, he had his work cut out for him making this team and to try and not to be distracted any more than any of the other players. He has a job to try and win.”

huh?

whoman69 · 05-09-2009, 10:10 PM

A part of me is glad they brought Drew Tate in. This team has a long history of bringing former Hawkeyes in. That said he has zero chance of making this team and its a good thing. Had he continued to develop as he did in his first two years, he could have been something. After the game winner against LSU he was not the same QB, too many chances down the field acting like he needed to win the game all by himself. Even if he learned some discretion in the CFL, he would still be a long shot to make the team.

booger · 05-09-2009, 10:14 PM

http://www.nfl.com/photo/photo-galle...000d5d8103c3b8

**the Talking Can** · 05-10-2009, 04:37 AM

krumrie dropping a deuce....

**the Talking Can** · 05-10-2009, 04:45 AM

"so wtf were the Romulans doing as they waited for Spock for 25 years?"

Hog's Gone Fishin · 05-10-2009, 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman

The question is, if Hoffman can help SuckUp, then why can't he do the same for Connor Barwin?

And if he can help Connor Barwin, then why the hell do we waste a pick on a kicker?

Because Connor Barwin sucks!

Succup > Barwin

05-09-2009, 03:35 PM
LaChapelle Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $10004900	Q&A rookie camp day II and some Jackson action Q&A with TODD HALEY - 5/9 May 09, 2009, 3:46:27 PM Rookie Mini-Camp Q: How did it today go? TODD HALEY: “Today a little more was put in offensively and defensively. It was probably worse than yesterday, which is probably to be expected. Plus, they’re sore since it’s the first real football stuff they’ve done in a while. Most of these guys have kind of been in that combine training mode and this is really the first time they’ve been out there (on the practice field) running around and doing football stuff in quite a while. So, there are some guys feeling sorry for themselves.” Q: Is conditioning an issue with these guys? HALEY: “Oh yeah, the whole group. They’ve got a long way to go; they’ve got some catching up to do.” Q: Is that surprising? HALEY: “It’s different training for the combine. So many of these guys have been on the tour visiting teams and on planes, being served the big meals. There’s not a lot of training time in there and that’s the trap they can all easily fall into.” Q: Athletically is Jackson everything you thought he would be just watching him out there? HALEY: “Yeah, again we had Tyson in here and interviewed him at the combine. We had him here for two days so I pretty much knew what he looked like. He actually lost a few pounds since we saw him which is good. I’m really excited about the player but, again, he’s got a long way to go understanding everything, conditioning-wise, all those things. But as far as two days out there I’m excited about the player.” Q: Is Magee athletic enough to play that end position in your defense? HALEY: “Yeah, that was one of the things that was a big positive on Magee. It was his versatility, that he had done both (tackle and end). It remains to be seen, but when we took him we believed he could play either position. We found value in that but he’s come in and been impressive so far athletically.” Q: You drafted a kicker and kick returner. You and Scott (Pioli) talked about Washington’s ability in special teams. This is intentional, right, to address special teams? HALEY: “We want competition in as many positions as we can and the kicker was somebody that our special teams coach, Steve Hoffman, had gone and worked out and really liked. I don’t know you know much about him, but Coach Hoffman is one of the few special team coaches that is really a technical teacher. What he’s done for really the last 19 years is teach kickers and punters technique and actually works with them on mechanics. “He worked him out, tinkered with his approach on some kickoffs and the kid responded. He thought he had a chance to be a real good kicker in the league. We’re excited about the opportunity to bring him in. “I’ve told everybody here that if you can be a better than average punt and kick returner you’ve got a very good chance to make this team because I don’t know if we have one right now. That’s a great opportunity for somebody, so that’s definitely an area that we went into the draft and off-season knowing that we needed to find somebody.” Q: Is that what you liked about Lawrence specifically? HALEY: “No, we think that Lawrence has a chance to be a receiver also - again, the more you can do and the more plays you can play. If you can be a fourth receiver and return all the kicks then that means you’re playing roughly 25 plays a game which is enough to be a game day roster guy. I’m not speculating on whether he can or can’t right now. He’s got a long way to go too.” Q: Do you see Colin Brown as a project seeing that he played in the spread offense in college? HALEY: “That’s always the big thing and we’re having to deal with it more and more with the way college is going with so much spread. There are some guys you know you’re going to be raw in some areas: the kid from Baylor was the same way, Jason Smith. “But Colin Brown is like anybody else: it’s a level playing field and everybody is competing. I’m not looking at him as a developmental or anything right now. He’s big. I’ve been kind of impressed by the way he moves around and carries himself. He’s competing for a starting spot.” Q: Magee and Jackson worked out together and trained. Were you aware those guys had some relationship prior to drafting them? Would you hope for that? HALEY: “I would say that the fact that there was a relationship wasn’t a factor in (drafting) either guy. But we had both those players in here for two days, visited with them and in the course of those visits you find out a lot of things. A lot of those guys cross over and are working out together depending upon where they go in the country to do some of that pre-combine work. “But, to me, it’s just an added bonus. As long as they weren’t fighting the whole time they were there training. It appeared they developed some type of relationship so that’s always good. It helps guys get acclimated and gives them some stability. I just look at it as a bonus.” Q: Is there more pressure on those two than the others? HALEY: “Well, there might be more pressure on them because of where they were drafted and the scrutiny that’s going to be on them as opposed to a free agent that nobody really knows about. As I told the whole group of them, I personally don’t care whether you’re a draft pick, a high one, a low one, a free agent, or a tryout guy. I’m very selfish as a coach and am gonna push to play the guys that give the Kansas City Chiefs the best chance to win and that’s the message I delivered to all of them. If there is more pressure on them ‘cause of media scrutiny, well….” Q: Did you talk to Ryan Succup at all about being this Mr. Irrelevant? HALEY: “It’s a worry because Mr. Irrelevant has become such a big thing that we just kind of reminded him that he was the last pick in the draft. So, he had his work cut out for him making this team and to try and not to be distracted any more than any of the other players. He has a job to try and win.” Q: It seems like he has a pretty good attitude. HALEY: “Yeah, I like his demeanor. That was one of the things that Coach Hoffman really liked about him. He is a pretty calm leveled guy. At that position and with the pressure that ends up being on those kickers that’s a big item. He carries himself well.” Q: Who are your two quarterbacks out there? HALEY: “Drew Tate, who is from Iowa two years ago, been in the CFL, been around and Chase Patton from Missouri, who was a backup to the other Chase.” Q: Physically you must like Chase at 6'3", a prototype for a quarterback. HALEY: “Yeah, he’s actually 6'4", a big good looking kid, good arm. Both those guys have come into a tough situation and got us through practice. They’re competing well.” ? ?@???A? Jackson coming up -Q&A with a poop load -will just post the links http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/05...n_jackson__59/ http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/05...lex_magee__59/ http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/05...lin_brown__59/ http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/05...an_succop__59/ Last edited by LaChapelle; 05-09-2009 at 03:41 PM..
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bdeg Veteran Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: iowa Casino cash: $10004900	we're officially going 3-4. i usually listen to these because they cut a bunch out. magee says the only formation they've practiced is 3-4 also this question "Q: Magee and Jackson worked out together and trained. Were you aware those guys had some relationship prior to drafting them? Would you hope for that?" was unspeakably bad and whoever asked it should lose their pass Last edited by bdeg; 05-09-2009 at 07:12 PM..
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