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Old 01-31-2012, 02:52 PM  
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Old 02-15-2013, 01:07 PM   #6001
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Old 02-15-2013, 01:07 PM   #6002
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Old 02-15-2013, 01:09 PM   #6003
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Old 02-15-2013, 01:11 PM   #6004
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No. I'll wait until some banker 60 years from now declares me the national champion for 2013. Then I'll hang a banner.
You added an 'n'. Helms was originally a baker.
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Old 02-15-2013, 01:12 PM   #6005
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They have no past. 1 top-10 finish in the AP last 40 years. Even KU has 2 of those.
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Old 02-15-2013, 01:13 PM   #6006
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You added an 'n'. Helms was originally a baker.
No wonder they hang banners for that in Lawrence while UK doesn't recognize theirs.
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Old 02-15-2013, 01:14 PM   #6007
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All hail the mighty 6-7 Cyclones who just landed the worst recruiting class in the Big 12.
Recruit rankings don't really matter unless you're pulling in the top few. We're sending Jake Knott to the NFL who only had one offer, and its from Iowa State. Same with AJ Klein who wasn't highly recruited. We've had 4 star guys like Sedrick Johnson come to Iowa State, who was complete garbage.

But hey keep gazing at your little star guide.
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Old 02-15-2013, 01:14 PM   #6008
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2nd in football (edged out at the end by the SEC) and 3rd in basketball. Incredible year for the Big 12. Hopefully you can fix your awful basketball situation so you're not behind the Mountain West.
Tough to argue when you combine the sports that the Big 12 isn't #1. I suppose arguments can be made using all kinds of numbers but when 90% of you conference goes to a bowl and you rank 3rd in basketball it really isn't difficult to see.
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Old 02-15-2013, 01:20 PM   #6009
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No wonder they hang banners for that in Lawrence while UK doesn't recognize theirs.
In my lifetime Kentucky has won 3 titles and made 7 Final Fours. Kansas has won 2 titles and made 8 Final Fours. Kentucky has played in 4 Championship games, Kansas has played in 5. Kansas has 18 Conference Championships, Kentucky has 14. Kentucky has been in the NCAA Tournament 3 straight years...Kansas? 23 years straight.

It's fun to have another school be as great as your own while you've been around to watch. Kentucky is as close as anyone.
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Old 02-15-2013, 01:31 PM   #6010
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Recruit rankings don't really matter unless you're pulling in the top few. We're sending Jake Knott to the NFL who only had one offer, and its from Iowa State. Same with AJ Klein who wasn't highly recruited. We've had 4 star guys like Sedrick Johnson come to Iowa State, who was complete garbage.

But hey keep gazing at your little star guide.
Tell me more about the secret to Iowa State's success.
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Old 02-15-2013, 01:33 PM   #6011
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In my lifetime Kentucky has won 3 titles and made 7 Final Fours. Kansas has won 2 titles and made 8 Final Fours. Kentucky has played in 4 Championship games, Kansas has played in 5. Kansas has 18 Conference Championships, Kentucky has 14. Kentucky has been in the NCAA Tournament 3 straight years...Kansas? 23 years straight.

It's fun to have another school be as great as your own while you've been around to watch. Kentucky is as close as anyone.
Kentucky is the best basketball program of all time. Kansas is top ten, maybe even top five.
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Old 02-15-2013, 01:39 PM   #6012
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In my lifetime Kentucky has won 3 titles and made 7 Final Fours. Kansas has won 2 titles and made 8 Final Fours. Kentucky has played in 4 Championship games, Kansas has played in 5. Kansas has 18 Conference Championships, Kentucky has 14. Kentucky has been in the NCAA Tournament 3 straight years...Kansas? 23 years straight.
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I'm frankly surprised it's that close, given Kentucky's hilarious 13-year final four drought from 1998-2011.
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Old 02-15-2013, 01:52 PM   #6013
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Kentucky is the best basketball program of all time. Kansas is top ten, maybe even top five.
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Old 02-15-2013, 02:14 PM   #6014
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Recruit rankings don't really matter unless you're pulling in the top few. We're sending Jake Knott to the NFL who only had one offer, and its from Iowa State. Same with AJ Klein who wasn't highly recruited. We've had 4 star guys like Sedrick Johnson come to Iowa State, who was complete garbage.

But hey keep gazing at your little star guide.
There is a direct correlation with recruiting success and on field success. That doesn't mean every 5 star is great and every 2 star is garbage. But in general the higher you're recruiting the better you will be on the field.

For every Jake Knott there are a hundred that don't amount to squat. It's kind of like NFL draft. In fact it's exactly like the NFL draft. The higher rated the recruit, the more likely he is to be good. The lower rated, the less likely.

It goes well beyond the "top few". It seems it's always fans from the "have nots" that are trying to sing that song. And I'm not just talking about Iowa State or Kansas. There was a similar sentiment trying to be spun by more than a few on our rivals board on NSD due to our dead last (in the SEC) rated class. But it's absurd and couldn't be further from the truth.
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Kentucky is the best basketball program of all time. Kansas is top ten, maybe even top five.
Kansas is easily top 6 along w/ Kentucky, Indiana, UCLA, Duke, and Carolina in whatever order. I would personally put Kentucky at #1. I hate KU as much as anybody but it is what it is

Their run of dominance from the late 80s on is really quite remarkable. In fact it's unbelievable. All of the blue bloods sans KU have had seasons where they took a dump and miss the tourney. I'm 36 and can't remember them ever being down. B/C they haven't been.

What a bunch of jerks.
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