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Cooking with Splenda found to release cancer-causing dioxins in food

The long-term safety of the popular artificial sweetener Splenda (sucralose) has been called into question by a new review study published in the Journal of Toxicology and Environmental Health. Researchers from the U.S. National Institutes of Health (NIH) discovered that sucralose essentially releases cancer-causing dioxins in food when baked or otherwise heated, which is one of its primary marketed uses.

Citing an earlier study published by researchers from the Department of Pharmacology at Duke University in North Carolina, the review challenges a number of claims made in support of Splenda's alleged safety, including the claim by its manufacturer, McNeil Nutritionals, that sucralose passes through the body completely undigested. Evidence shows not only that this is false but also that sucralose is hardly the innocuous substance that we have all been led to believe it is.

"The study asserts that in human and rodent studies sucralose was shown to alter levels of glucose, insulin and glucagon-like peptide 1 (GLP-1)," writes Laura Sesana for the Washington Times (WT). "The authors also warn that when sucralose is used for cooking at high temperatures it generates chloropropanols, a class of chemicals that may be linked to a higher risk of cancer."

Sucralose may be unsafe for people with diabetes; chemicals raise blood sugar, insulin
The blood sugar finding is particularly concerning, as Splenda is largely marketed to diabetics who have to watch their sugar intake. Many people who use Splenda or consume products that contain it typically do so because they believe it to be a healthier alternative to sugar, which is clearly not the case.

"Sucralose alters metabolic parameters and its chronic effects on body weight are unknown," reads the study, suggesting that the artificial sweetener may actually have diabetogenic properties, meaning it can actually cause diabetes.

Evidence suggests sucralose is more of a drug than a food additive
Sucralose was also found in the study to alter the expressions of P-glycoprotein and cytochrome P in a manner similar to organochlorine drugs. This would suggest that sucralose is actually more of a drug than it is a food additive, which means it has no business being indiscriminately added to food without a proper drug warning.

Long-term health consequences of sucralose metabolites unknown
The only reason why Splenda even made it on the artificial sweetener scene in the first place is because it was claimed at the time that sucralose passes through the body "unchanged." But this latest study proves based on urine and fecal analysis that sucralose produces toxic metabolites, especially when heated, that have unknown long-term effects on human health.

"One study showed that the stability of sucralose decreased as the temperature and pH increased, with the breakdown process commencing at 119 degrees Celsius and temperatures of 180 degrees Celsius causing its complete degradation at all pH levels with the release of chloride ions," writes Sayer Ji for BeforeItsNews.com about the dangers of heated Splenda.

Whatever sucralose is not metabolized by the body ends up passing through into sewers and eventually water treatment plants, where it accumulates and eventually gets released into the environment. This bio-accumulation threatens to not only taint rivers, streams and other water sources, but also contaminate fish and other animals.

"Because the body does not metabolize 85 percent of sucralose ingested, most of it ends up in sewage treatment systems," explains Sesana. "Sucralose is resistant to water treatments for the same reason that it is not easily broken down by the body, resulting in sucralose being released into surface waters."

Be sure to read Sesana's full report here:
http://communities.washingtontimes.c...d-environment/

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative...n-2840286.html

http://www.thesleuthjournal.com/sucr...leases-dioxin/

http://www.naturalnews.com/043206_Sp...xic_food.html#
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Old 12-12-2013, 01:30 PM   #151
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Worked for me and a toddler...and I didn't even know it was homeopathy.
Of course it was for minor health issue. Guess it depends on the doctor using it, what they use it for and the brand they use.
Here's almost 19,000 instances of child death or severe injury due to homeopathic practices. All these children died or were injured because the people who cared for them thought there was no harm in homeopathy and it was a safe alternative to modern medicine.

http://whatstheharm.net/children.html

That's why your own personal experience shouldn't be assumed as proof of anything working. Those parents probably had a perfect track record with their homeopathic treatment as well... at least until it killed their child.
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Old 12-12-2013, 02:13 PM   #152
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Old 12-12-2013, 02:42 PM   #153
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What is it about mid-westerners being so anti natural health alternatives? Must be because they live in BIG FARMA with the prevalence of chemical farming. That's just another vested interest that doesn't like competition.
Does your chiropractor/surgeon/therapist/plumber/nutritionist have any vested interests?
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Old 12-13-2013, 12:25 PM   #154
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What is it about mid-westerners being so anti natural health alternatives? Must be because they live in BIG FARMA with the prevalence of chemical farming. That's just another vested interest that doesn't like competition.
I'll tell ya. I hear one thing and then I hear another. It's getting to the point where you don't know who to believe. Seems like everything these days is or can be bad for you if you listen to the right so called expert. My BS meter kicks on when I see someone claiming that some things are bad for you and they offer an alternative that you can order from them, usually at some ridiculous price.

I figure you only live once. I'm going to enjoy life and not worry too much. I am by no means a health nut. But I do eat fruits and veggies and try to walk on breaks (not lately with the cold weather). I like to hoop but haven't been doing as much over the past few months. But I recently vowed to get back to going to the Y at least 2-3 times a week. That was the day before Thanksgiving. Then some jackhole fell into my knee and hyper extended it. Geez, you just can't win sometimes.

Anyway, my point is that in my case at least, I'm not living a truly unhealthy lifestyle. And it seems that everything these days can kill you. Also, there have been snake oil salesmen since the dawn of time. I refuse to get duped into wasting money on something that isn't necessary or is priced way beyond it's true worth. It has nothing to do with being associated with big farming or pharmaceuticals or anything else.
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Old 12-13-2013, 12:30 PM   #155
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Name them. I go by what people have experienced from the products.
Like how many people have died from properly prescribed medications compared to how few died from natural. Clinical studies do have limitations. Another being long term use of something.
If you were truly scientific on this you would mention percentages and not numbers of people.
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I'll tell ya. I hear one thing and then I hear another. It's getting to the point where you don't know who to believe. Seems like everything these days is or can be bad for you if you listen to the right so called expert. My BS meter kicks on when I see someone claiming that some things are bad for you and they offer an alternative that you can order from them, usually at some ridiculous price.

I figure you only live once. I'm going to enjoy life and not worry too much. I am by no means a health nut. But I do eat fruits and veggies and try to walk on breaks (not lately with the cold weather). I like to hoop but haven't been doing as much over the past few months. But I recently vowed to get back to going to the Y at least 2-3 times a week. That was the day before Thanksgiving. Then some jackhole fell into my knee and hyper extended it. Geez, you just can't win sometimes.

Anyway, my point is that in my case at least, I'm not living a truly unhealthy lifestyle. And it seems that everything these days can kill you. Also, there have been snake oil salesmen since the dawn of time. I refuse to get duped into wasting money on something that isn't necessary or is priced way beyond it's true worth. It has nothing to do with being associated with big farming or pharmaceuticals or anything else.
You don't have to order from the likes of Dr. Mercola, but he does make some great points not made by those sold out to the system. Including but not limited to pointing out flaws in the standard line of thinking. This is why I love America, you can do what you wish or should be able to for your own body.
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Old 12-13-2013, 09:58 PM   #157
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Yet they won't approve an Asthma medication I've used for 30 years because the only OTC alternative right now is made by the same manufacturer that makes the Prescription Albuterol. What's worse is the one they make isn't metered and it's easy to overdose on the same stuff that was metered in the inhaler.
A generic prescription is cheaper than the over the counter crap.
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A generic prescription is cheaper than the over the counter crap.
It is not the same medicine though. Albuterol vs Epinephrine and the Albuterol inhaler is $50 as opposed to the old Primatene which about $15-17 and the Primatene works better and lasts longer.

ALbuterol and the OTC current variety of Epinephrine(Asthmanefrin) are both made by Nephron Pharmaceuticals. Armstrong used to make Primatene until it was banned and the FDA won't approve the new Primatene HFC for some strange reason.

Current Epinephrine is $50 startup and $30 for 30 treatments from Nephron
Primatene inhaler was $15 and had about 250 puffs per inhaler from Amstrong.

Albuterol is cheap, about $10 per month, and it works pretty well on just the asthma.
Epinephrine works very well on the asthma and helps relieve allergy symptoms that cause Asthma.
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It is not the same medicine though. Albuterol vs Epinephrine and the Albuterol inhaler is $50 as opposed to the old Primatene which about $15-17 and the Primatene works better and lasts longer.

ALbuterol and the OTC current variety of Epinephrine(Asthmanefrin) are both made by Nephron Pharmaceuticals. Armstrong used to make Primatene until it was banned and the FDA won't approve the new Primatene HFC for some strange reason.

Current Epinephrine is $50 startup and $30 for 30 treatments from Nephron
Primatene inhaler was $15 and had about 250 puffs per inhaler from Amstrong.

Albuterol is cheap, about $10 per month, and it works pretty well on just the asthma.
Epinephrine works very well on the asthma and helps relieve allergy symptoms that cause Asthma.
Just go to Canada and stock up on your inhaler already.
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Just go to Canada and stock up on your inhaler already.
Armstrong is not producing it until it is approved by the FDA, the old inhaler was banned due to the cfc propellant.
The new version uses HFA which is the same kind used by prescription inhalers but it has yet to be approved for some strange reason.
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I've decided after reading this thread that I don't have enough high fructose corn syrup in my diet.

Also, can I get the same delicious unhealthy processed bleach taste of table salt if I buy kosher salt? It's better for seasoning and cooking.
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I've decided after reading this thread that I don't have enough high fructose corn syrup in my diet.

Also, can I get the same delicious unhealthy processed bleach taste of table salt if I buy kosher salt? It's better for seasoning and cooking.
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