2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread

[duncan_idaho]

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I think that OBP and ISO are the two most important stats for a hitter. One measures your ability to get on base, the other is your extra base power, which is rarely the result of luck the way that BABIP alone can be.

I agree with all of this.

[Demonpenz]

Pedro Alverez....Mexican Moosetakas

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

1) The Cardinals don't need any bullpen help. They have a surplus of bullpen arms, including the most devastating lefty-righty combo in all of baseball: Kevin Siegrist and Trevor Rosenthal.

2) And Oscar Taveras is more valuable than any two players in the entire Royals organization.

3) It's too bad your dad wasn't a better guru and missed your mom's stomach, hitting her beef flaps.

"beef flaps"

[Sully]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

I hate Crow with a white hot passion, equal to the heat of a thousand suns. I put him right up there with Achmedinijad and Dhokar Tursanev . I can't believe he's a 0 war player this far Into his career.

It's time to tell him to head to Omaha and become a starter or else he's gone. He's creating no value at the MLB level so why keep up this farce? Make him a starter or just pick up a reliever who can actually hit the strike zone.

I'm pretty sure, if it were up to you, the Royals major league team would only have around three actual players.

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by Brianfo

That's all you got. Seriously. Bring some smack or go to bed.

Hamas is the same idiot who tried to tell me STL isn't a better baseball market than KC. Seriously - he said that.



As people already pointed out in this thread, Gordon Hos Moose etc were monsters in the minors and in the case of Gordon (and Myers too), BB AMerica's top prospect. STL would trade Tavares for Gordon straight up this second and wouldn't bat an eye.


Gordon is going to have about 17 WAR in a three year stretch. Equal to Wainright & Molina.....More than Matt Holliday (13) or Beltran (11 WAR).

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

Pedro Alverez....Mexican Moosetakas

Um no, he has 24 homers already. Our guy is a joke.

[gblowfish]

Originally Posted by GloryDayz

"beef flaps"

I prefer the term "ham wallet."

[gblowfish]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Moose looks like a bust. Hosmer will at least be Willie Aikens

You mean, he's going to end up in Federal Prison for dealing coke???

[Deberg_1990]

Uh oh.....Rany starting to write things comparing this Royals teams to the Blue Jays of the last 10-13 years. Never awful, but never quite can get over the hump either.... 79-85wins every season.

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Uh oh.....Rany starting to write things comparing this Royals teams to the Blue Jays of the last 10-13 years. Never awful, but never quite can get over the hump either.... 79-85wins every season.

We aren't winning 85 games.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

We aren't winning 85 games.

No, not this year. 79-81 would be my guess. They won't be able to beat Cleveland and Detroit.

[Prison Bitch]

If we were able to win 79-85 games the next 10 years this fanbase would be ecstatic. We have been so dreadful so long that it would be a huge achievement frankly.

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Uh oh.....Rany starting to write things comparing this Royals teams to the Blue Jays of the last 10-13 years. Never awful, but never quite can get over the hump either.... 79-85wins every season.

YES, and then the Royals and Chiefs could be joined in eternal mediocrity.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

If we were able to win 79-85 games the next 10 years this fanbase would be ecstatic. We have been so dreadful so long that it would be a huge achievement frankly.

Yea, agreed. It will be a blessing and a curse, because it will buy more time for DM. Will they be stagnant and just remain cool with winning 79-85 games every season, or will they do what it takes to get up into the 90 wins area?

79-85 will keep butts in seats.....but does Glass truly care about anything more than that?

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Yea, agreed. It will be a blessing and a curse, because it will buy more time for DM. Will they be stagnant and just remain cool with winning 79-85 games every season, or will they do what it takes to get up into the 90 wins area?

By 2015, I doubt we win 79+ games.

Our rotation will be in shambles.