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Old 08-27-2013, 10:48 AM   #3016
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Do you even watch the show? There is direct correlation between the hitmen from mexico trying to take out Hank and Walter's involvement with the meth ring.
You might as well stop trying to explain it. Let him think what he wants.
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Old 08-27-2013, 10:57 AM   #3017
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Yes.... The guy who has shown repeated issues with harming kids will kill a baby.

And, dare I say it, CoMo may be on to something.

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Old 08-27-2013, 11:10 AM   #3018
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And, dare I say it, CoMo may be on to something.

http://www.uproxx.com/tv/2013/08/ins...y-less-insane/
Except the house doesn't look burned....it just looks deserted.

Now....maybe Walt turns to Hank after finding out that Jesse was at his house and doused it with gasoline. He now knows that Jesse is capable of going ****ing nuts and trying something.
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Old 08-27-2013, 11:12 AM   #3019
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Old 08-27-2013, 11:15 AM   #3020
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Except the house doesn't look burned....it just looks deserted.

Now....maybe Walt turns to Hank after finding out that Jesse was at his house and doused it with gasoline. He now knows that Jesse is capable of going ****ing nuts and trying something.
About the killing Holly part, not the obviously intact house.
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Old 08-27-2013, 11:16 AM   #3021
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About the killing Holly part, not the obviously intact house.
I think that most people expect one of the kids to die before this is all over. Something needs to set off a ****ed up ending. My money is on Walter Jr.
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Old 08-27-2013, 12:08 PM   #3022
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Do you even watch the show? There is direct correlation between the hitmen from mexico trying to take out Hank and Walter's involvement with the meth ring.
thanks! wow! I had no idea the hitmen had anything to do with Walt. JFC

this is a ****ing TV show people. it's not a college class that will be graded. and since we're all watching the same thing.....you don't know any more about the show than anybody else watching it.

S05E10 - Marie asks Skyler if she knew about Walt before Hank got shot, Marie slaps Skyler.

the ONLY reason Hank got shot is because Gus offered him up to pacify them for not being allowed to kill Walt.
MARIE doesn't know that. technically......it's not Skylers fault Hank got shot......technically. Skyler made no attempt to defend herself...understandably. I just found the scene interesting in that Marie jumped right into....it's Walts fault Hank was shot. it's kinda not.....
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Old 08-27-2013, 12:27 PM   #3023
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thanks! wow! I had no idea the hitmen had anything to do with Walt. JFC

this is a ****ing TV show people. it's not a college class that will be graded. and since we're all watching the same thing.....you don't know any more about the show than anybody else watching it.

S05E10 - Marie asks Skyler if she knew about Walt before Hank got shot, Marie slaps Skyler.

the ONLY reason Hank got shot is because Gus offered him up to pacify them for not being allowed to kill Walt.
MARIE doesn't know that. technically......it's not Skylers fault Hank got shot......technically. Skyler made no attempt to defend herself...understandably. I just found the scene interesting in that Marie jumped right into....it's Walts fault Hank was shot. it's kinda not.....
Hank and Marie know that Hank got shot as a result of whoever the resident drug kingpin was and his investigation into said kingpin. They now know that Walt was associated with (or actually was) that kingpin. Therefore, Walt is partially to blame for Hank getting shot. Thus, he gets slapped.

This isn't rocket science. If anything, their suspicions may be even WORSE than the actuality of the situation and deserving of much more than a slap. As far as they know, Walt actually ordered the hit on Hank.
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Old 08-27-2013, 12:33 PM   #3024
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Hank and Marie know that Hank got shot as a result of whoever the resident drug kingpin was and his investigation into said kingpin. They now know that Walt was associated with (or actually was) that kingpin. Therefore, Walt is partially to blame for Hank getting shot. Thus, he gets slapped.

This isn't rocket science. If anything, their suspicions may be even WORSE than the actuality of the situation and deserving of much more than a slap. As far as they know, Walt actually ordered the hit on Hank.
very good points. I don't disagree with any of this.
since I DO watch the show I am aware of all of this.
but HE didn't get slapped. SHE DID. Skyler did.

Marie slapped Skyler. for what she thinks Walt did.

THIS is what I found...interesting. even if Maries immiediate thought is that Walt is directly responsible.....she's gotta know that Skylers not!
heck it's a discussion board.....
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very good points. I don't disagree with any of this.
since I DO watch the show I am aware of all of this.
but HE didn't get slapped. SHE DID. Skyler did.

Marie slapped Skyler. for what she thinks Walt did.
I thought it made perfect sense for Marie to slap Skyler.

It wasn't really a stretch for her to figure out that Walt being dirty was directly related to Hank getting shot, and Skyler knew about Walt's dirtiness BEFORE Hank got shot. Skyler could have prevented the whole thing.

When you think about it, Marie's been pretty much spot on this season. She told Hank several times that he should immediately tell the DEA about Walt, because it would be so much worse if he didn't and they found out he hadn't told them.

Hank would be a hell of a lot better off right now if he had followed his wife's advice. Walt's threat to blame Hank and completely destroy his reputation and his life is a tool to give him leverage over Hank and prevent him from turning Walt in. If Hank had already turned Walt in, Walt would have no reason to try to frame Hank because he wouldn't have anything to gain by doing so.
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Old 08-27-2013, 01:25 PM   #3026
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I thought it made perfect sense for Marie to slap Skyler.

It wasn't really a stretch for her to figure out that Walt being dirty was directly related to Hank getting shot, and Skyler knew about Walt's dirtiness BEFORE Hank got shot. Skyler could have prevented the whole thing.

When you think about it, Marie's been pretty much spot on this season. She told Hank several times that he should immediately tell the DEA about Walt, because it would be so much worse if he didn't and they found out he hadn't told them.

Hank would be a hell of a lot better off right now if he had followed his wife's advice. Walt's threat to blame Hank and completely destroy his reputation and his life is a tool to give him leverage over Hank and prevent him from turning Walt in. If Hank had already turned Walt in, Walt would have no reason to try to frame Hank because he wouldn't have anything to gain by doing so.
well....the more I think about it.....see I thought Marie ASSUMED the shot was related to Walts meth business.
when they were all sequestered at Hanks house with DEA protection....DID they know then that the assassins were related to the meth case? they DID....didn't they? or did they?
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well....the more I think about it.....see I thought Marie ASSUMED the shot was related to Walts meth business.
when they were all sequestered at Hanks house with DEA protection....DID they know then that the assassins were related to the meth case? they DID....didn't they? or did they?
Did they know with 100% certainty? Probably not.

Did they think it was a strong possibility that the hit was drug-related since Hank is a DEA agent? I'd have to say yes.

So Marie already knew the attempted hit was probably drug-related, and then she found out that Walt is the Heisenberg druglord her husband had been pursuing for over a year, and THEN she found out that her sister knew that Walt was Heisenberg BEFORE Hank was shot.

Seems pretty reasonable to me that she would slap her sister. If she were my sister, I'd have slapped her too.
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So a couple of episodes ago did we not see a Moby Dick reference, and someone say " the whale wins".

Hank's white whale is clearly Walter White or at least his alternate persona.

Hank's obsession has now become his probable downfall. If Walt is exposed then he loses his career, and everything and everyone close to him both at work and in his personal life, as Walt and his family is closest to Hank and Marie.

His obsession isn't simply because of justice because Hank had no issue in overlooking his kleptomaniac wife's own actions which got Skyler arrested, and Marie refused to apologize for or even acknowledge her guilt.
Yes, it's a different scale, but Hank did react just like Skyler to discovery of their spouses criminal activity.

We see now, Marie has threatened to take the kids, and Skyler is now fully behind Walt as the threat to her family is no longer Walt. You'll notice she's dressed up all in tan at the Mexican restaurant, just like Walt. Tan being the neutral color of when Walt was still a good guy, but now that color signifies his mask of simply pretending to be Walter White, as he is now Heisenberg. Confirmed by Skyler knowing about the confession - and a move Walt would have either never done or not told her before.

Also, notice that Marie is not wearing any purple, but is in all black. Another character who was emotionally significant to a key character on the show that I can recall mostly wearing black was Jane. Marie is likely another crossfire causality, just as Jane was as Walter deemed her as a problem with getting in the way of his plan.

I just think the Moby Dick reference foreshadows Hank's obsession consuming him to the point of losing everything and he will not come out on top of Walt. Not to say Walt won't have his falling down moment, but if Jesse is the moral center of the show, and always the 1 guy Walter was depending upon and at the same time most exposed by, then Jesse's awakening to Walt truly breaking bad, is only fitting that his closest ally and loose end be the instrument of his downfall.
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