NFL Draft I'll come out and say it: this was a good draft. - Page 4

Direckshun · 04-26-2009, 09:03 PM

This draft did not make the most sense out of what we COULD have done.

But think of what we accomplished:

We drafted the TWO BEST pure 3-4 DEs in the Draft this year. Jackson in particular seems to have a great ceiling, and Magee is the perfect lunchpail guy.
Anybody here who realistically thought we were set at CB with Flowers-Carr-Leggett(-Daniels?) is deluding themselves. We were going to need another piece there. Washington was not the BEST choice we could have made, but his pick is not senseless.
For a draft that was largely without sizzle, we did make it out of the draft with two potentially exciting skill-position players from the late rounds.
A kicker! BARTH VS. SUCCOP, an elite battle of eliteness.
Brown and O'Connell didn't make a lick of sense, no defenses there.
The positions, outside of QB, that take the longest to develop are DL, WR, and CB. It makes more sense to get those players first when you are building a team. This draft hit those positions first.

There are other reasons out there but we will hear them as the thread winds on.

Good first draft by Pioli.

Direckshun · 04-26-2009, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

I'm assuming you're talking about the part where I burn somebody's house down.

Hey, arson is part of being a good draftnik.

Simply Red · 04-26-2009, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Direc likes to be different I think, he ripped on last years draft and now likes this one...

Ironic you'd make this claim.

FAX · 04-26-2009, 10:34 PM

This draft (like most others) will have minimal impact on the totality of the football team Pioli is trying to build. We may (with the emphasis on "may") have acquired 2 or 3 players who will be contributing to the Chiefs 3 years from now. Odds are we added less than 10 percent to our starting squad in 2011. Of course, other than perhaps the Bengals, the same can be said about every other franchise's draft. Still, the Chiefs have a proven legacy of crappy drafts. Surely, Pioli can do no worse than we've done over the last 2 decades.

Of interest to me is whether or not Pioli selected players that meet his "criteria" (big, strong, fast, and smart). I know we got a couple of big guys. We'll find out about the rest as they develop. Meanwhile, of greater concern to me is whether or not peeps like Cassel, Dorsey, Bowe, DJ, and several other Chiefs who have the potential to be successful, impact players bring it over the next few years. Also, we'd better get damn busy finding some offensive linemen somewhere. Like the famous, old Belgium proverb says, "A one-legged chicken walks darn funny and it seems like it takes one forever to cross the yard."

FAX

Ultra Peanut · 04-26-2009, 10:36 PM

It was arright.

xbarretx · 04-26-2009, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX

Like the famous, old Belgium proverb says, "A one-legged chicken walks darn funny and it seems like it takes one forever to cross the yard."

FAX

or "you cant build a mansion on stilts"

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-26-2009, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by xbarretx

or "you cant build a mansion on stilts"

Apparently, you've never visited the Hollywood Hills

Mecca · 04-26-2009, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

I don't know where you find the courage.

Look man I'm gonna say what I think, unlike alot of fans I'm not a flip flopper if my opinion is proven to be wrong I'll accept that but I am not going to view everything as all aces because it's my team.

DaWolf · 04-26-2009, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

Yes, because the players drafted in the past two years changed the fact that the team was quarterbacked by Damon Huard, Brodie Coyle and Tyler Thigpen.

So what? The defense has sucked for the last decade. We used to win games with Steve DeBerg, Dave Kreig, Elvis Grbac, and Steve Bono. Six wins in two years is not just due to the QBs. If you are tearing down a team to play young players, those young players better start producing some wins within a couple of years. It's happened in other places. You can't pass judgment on guys taken last year yet and even some of the other guys, but just because you are drafting players and playing them doesn't mean that you've drafted the right guys, and it is quite possible some of these young guys that Carl and Herm drafted just aren't winning caliber football players...

Blick · 04-26-2009, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by xbarretx

oh and ... Shawnee Mission North High School Football RULES!

This lol.

Mecca · 04-26-2009, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf

So what? The defense has sucked for the last decade. We used to win games with Steve DeBerg, Dave Kreig, Elvis Grbac, and Steve Bono. Six wins in two years is not just due to the QBs...

That defense was the product of a man with a ring just remember that.

**J Diddy** · 04-26-2009, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

That defense was the product of a man with a ring just remember that.

That defense was the product of a man with a wrong and little interest in the defense. Allowing the d coordinator total autonomy. His mistake wasn't in the d it was selecting who to run the d.

Otter · 04-26-2009, 11:01 PM

I'll come out and say it:

Scott Pioli started as assistant of player personnel for the New England Patriots in 2000. He was then promoted to director of player personnel, then promoted to VP of player personnel. New England has been four Super Bowls in that time.

He knows more any stupid bastard posting on this board draft weekend even if in some grand illusion you somehow think your more qualified or even capable of holding his jock strap.

Hammas, you're the master of inventiing the illusion of knowledge, surely you can grant these people some insight on how to live the lie more effectively.

Carry on, have fun. Some of us have work tomorrow.

Mecca · 04-26-2009, 11:01 PM

That coordinator had a ring too..

Lets remember this when we act like Pioli's rings give him this almighty unquestionable say.

**J Diddy** · 04-26-2009, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

That coordinator had a ring too..

Lets remember this when we act like Pioli's rings give him this almighty unquestionable say.

I never said initially it wasn't a good hire. He had the resume.
The problem was that he didn't terminate his employment when he should have.

xbarretx · 04-26-2009, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Apparently, you've never visited the Hollywood Hills

Touché but thats not what i meant

04-26-2009, 09:03 PM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4413447	I'll come out and say it: this was a good draft. This draft did not make the most sense out of what we COULD have done. But think of what we accomplished: We drafted the TWO BEST pure 3-4 DEs in the Draft this year. Jackson in particular seems to have a great ceiling, and Magee is the perfect lunchpail guy. Anybody here who realistically thought we were set at CB with Flowers-Carr-Leggett(-Daniels?) is deluding themselves. We were going to need another piece there. Washington was not the BEST choice we could have made, but his pick is not senseless. For a draft that was largely without sizzle, we did make it out of the draft with two potentially exciting skill-position players from the late rounds. A kicker! BARTH VS. SUCCOP, an elite battle of eliteness. Brown and O'Connell didn't make a lick of sense, no defenses there. The positions, outside of QB, that take the longest to develop are DL, WR, and CB. It makes more sense to get those players first when you are building a team. This draft hit those positions first. There are other reasons out there but we will hear them as the thread winds on. Good first draft by Pioli.
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04-26-2009, 10:34 PM	#48
FAX testing ... 1, 2, 3 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Tennessee Casino cash: $6753759	This draft (like most others) will have minimal impact on the totality of the football team Pioli is trying to build. We may (with the emphasis on "may") have acquired 2 or 3 players who will be contributing to the Chiefs 3 years from now. Odds are we added less than 10 percent to our starting squad in 2011. Of course, other than perhaps the Bengals, the same can be said about every other franchise's draft. Still, the Chiefs have a proven legacy of crappy drafts. Surely, Pioli can do no worse than we've done over the last 2 decades. Of interest to me is whether or not Pioli selected players that meet his "criteria" (big, strong, fast, and smart). I know we got a couple of big guys. We'll find out about the rest as they develop. Meanwhile, of greater concern to me is whether or not peeps like Cassel, Dorsey, Bowe, DJ, and several other Chiefs who have the potential to be successful, impact players bring it over the next few years. Also, we'd better get damn busy finding some offensive linemen somewhere. Like the famous, old Belgium proverb says, "A one-legged chicken walks darn funny and it seems like it takes one forever to cross the yard." FAX
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