Home Mail Chat Wallpapers
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > The Lounge > Washington DC and The Holy Land

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-11-2018, 11:58 AM  
HonestChieffan HonestChieffan is offline
Seeking the Truth daily
 
HonestChieffan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In the Country in MO
Casino cash: $34409
ven the Lefties are starting to see Elon Musk as an empty suit

https://gizmodo.com/is-elon-musk-ser...ium=socialflow


Long read but pretty well lines it out.
Posts: 43,649
HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2018, 03:02 PM   #61
eDave eDave is online now
Lost
 
eDave's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2013
Casino cash: $72574
He seems to have gone off the rails recently. Or maybe I haven't been paying attention. The conference call with investors, dissing on the media, this:

Elon Musk calls British diver who helped rescue Thai schoolboys 'pedo guy' in Twitter outburst

Elon Musk has called a British diver who helped rescue schoolboys from a flooded cave in Thailand ‘pedo guy’ on Twitter.

The entrepreneur’s outburst came after diver Vern Unsworth told Mr Musk to “stick his submarine where it hurts” after describing his offer to help with a miniature submersible as a “PR stunt”.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8448366.html.

Does he NEED a publicity stunt?
__________________
**** you
Posts: 31,073
eDave is obviously part of the inner Circle.eDave is obviously part of the inner Circle.eDave is obviously part of the inner Circle.eDave is obviously part of the inner Circle.eDave is obviously part of the inner Circle.eDave is obviously part of the inner Circle.eDave is obviously part of the inner Circle.eDave is obviously part of the inner Circle.eDave is obviously part of the inner Circle.eDave is obviously part of the inner Circle.eDave is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2018, 03:12 PM   #62
Baby Lee Baby Lee is offline
Supporter
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Casino cash: $58698
Quote:
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 View Post
Depreciation and business expenses? If the government invested in tax benefits for electric to even close to the same level they invest in drilling equipment and oil infrastructure, electric would be a hell of a lot more scalable. If oil & gas get tax benefits not typical for other industries, that is a subsidy.

Someone did stop Tesla from making batteries. Oil & gas hoarded patents and sued anyone who dared to actually commercialize the technology. Big Auto set up skunk work operations to purposefully tank battery cars because they knew they make a shitload more money on maintenance/repair than they do an efficient electric car. Electric cars and batteries are niche products because oil & gas and big auto have colluded to box out the market.

The reason Elon Musk is investing a shitload in politics is because he knows he's up against hundreds of millions in lobbying $'s from oil & gas. It's hilarious that the same people who criticize to the very end Elon Musk's acceptance of govt benefits are the same people who are the biggest apologists for oil & gas that you've ever seen. If you think electric has received more benefit from government than electric, you're out of your mind.
You don't get nearly enough credit as a tinfoil hat kook. Lately, you've been in 'turning frogs gay' territory.

If I supposed you amenible to fact and reason, I would work to correct your claims. But it's patently clear that you're committed to your conclusions and will simply pile on allegation after allegation until refuting your bullshit becomes a full time vocation.
Posts: 73,946
Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2018, 03:54 PM   #63
BucEyedPea BucEyedPea is offline
BucsPatsNoles
 
BucEyedPea's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: None of your business
Casino cash: $70063
Elon gets 4 Billion in tax credits but is gonna open a plant in China.

Come on Trump, clean out the crony capitalist swamp!
__________________
Posts: 105,961
BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2018, 05:09 PM   #64
MahiMike MahiMike is offline
He's Mahomie!
 
MahiMike's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Jax, FL
Casino cash: $23543
Tesla will be broke in 5 years
__________________
I'll never forget where I was the day we drafted our future Hall of Fame QB!
Posts: 13,585
MahiMike has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.MahiMike has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.MahiMike has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.MahiMike has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.MahiMike has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.MahiMike has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.MahiMike has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.MahiMike has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.MahiMike has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.MahiMike has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.MahiMike has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2018, 05:41 PM   #65
chiefzilla1501 chiefzilla1501 is offline
In Search of a Life
 

Join Date: Aug 2008
Casino cash: $34597
Quote:
Originally Posted by Baby Lee View Post
You don't get nearly enough credit as a tinfoil hat kook. Lately, you've been in 'turning frogs gay' territory.

If I supposed you amenible to fact and reason, I would work to correct your claims. But it's patently clear that you're committed to your conclusions and will simply pile on allegation after allegation until refuting your bullshit becomes a full time vocation.
Does oil/gas receive a significant amount of tax credits for decades? Are they one of the biggest lobbyists in the world? Cue the predictable "subsidies are different from tax credits" bullshit. Have they used lobbying to create federal regulation favorable to their industry? Did oil/gas basically create a monopoly on the battery market by hoarding all the patents on a technology they knew was their biggest competitive threat? Did the patent owners sue anyone who dared to try to commercialize battery technology? These are all facts. The idea that Big Auto purposefully tanked the battery market is a guess, but an easy one to defend.

Do I think batteries would be dominating the market by now? No. But quit the disingenuous shit that they received favorable treatment considering they've been up against the biggest lobby. It's impressive how you continue to hide behind right wing talking points. If you claim to be free market, you should recognize the obviousness that oil/gas have been partnering with government and colluding with Big Auto to undermine battery technology for decades. The market is finally working now that the battery patents have expired and there are businesses outside of big auto pushing the technology (e-bus, Uber/Lyft, driverless). The question is why this wasn't the case a long time ago. Anyone without their head in the sand knows the answer to that question.
Posts: 32,861
chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2018, 05:55 PM   #66
chiefzilla1501 chiefzilla1501 is offline
In Search of a Life
 

Join Date: Aug 2008
Casino cash: $34597
Quote:
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea View Post
Elon gets 4 Billion in tax credits but is gonna open a plant in China.

Come on Trump, clean out the crony capitalist swamp!
China is set to dominate us in the eBus market and likely will pull way ahead of us in terms of batteries, and therefore electric cars... maybe then driverless. Perhaps we should be looking a lot more into why one of our innovators would leave versus applauding his exit. You're a free market person. Maybe if the battery market had a true free market, it would be more scalable today.
Posts: 32,861
chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2018, 06:35 AM   #67
BucEyedPea BucEyedPea is offline
BucsPatsNoles
 
BucEyedPea's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: None of your business
Casino cash: $70063
Quote:
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 View Post
China is set to dominate us in the eBus market and likely will pull way ahead of us in terms of batteries, and therefore electric cars... maybe then driverless. Perhaps we should be looking a lot more into why one of our innovators would leave versus applauding his exit. You're a free market person. Maybe if the battery market had a true free market, it would be more scalable today.
I didn't applaud his exit. Please read with comprehension or get Hooked on Phonics.

China is socialist, and it's so-called markets have been created and built-up by American crony industries who want not just cheap non-competitive labor — but also literally uses slave labor too. It is still socialist, so it will eventually fail—including their Silk Road which has already run into trouble. In fact, their economy is in trouble.

A bigger threat is if they stop buying our debt.
__________________
Posts: 105,961
BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2018, 07:44 AM   #68
Trolly McTrollson Trolly McTrollson is offline
Veteran
 
Trolly McTrollson's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2012
Casino cash: $25
Quote:
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea View Post
I didn't applaud his exit. Please read with comprehension or get Hooked on Phonics.

China is socialist, and it's so-called markets have been created and built-up by American crony industries who want not just cheap non-competitive labor — but also literally uses slave labor too. It is still socialist, so it will eventually fail—including their Silk Road which has already run into trouble. In fact, their economy is in trouble.

A bigger threat is if they stop buying our debt.
Sounds like socialism works.

In other news, Musk has gone off the rails, doubling down on calling a heroic rescue diver a “pedo.” Be a small miracle big he doesn’t get kicked off the board of Tesla.
Posts: 1,998
Trolly McTrollson 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliTrolly McTrollson 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliTrolly McTrollson 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliTrolly McTrollson 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliTrolly McTrollson 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliTrolly McTrollson 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliTrolly McTrollson 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliTrolly McTrollson 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliTrolly McTrollson 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliTrolly McTrollson 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliTrolly McTrollson 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitelli
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2018, 08:10 AM   #69
chiefzilla1501 chiefzilla1501 is offline
In Search of a Life
 

Join Date: Aug 2008
Casino cash: $34597
Quote:
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea View Post
I didn't applaud his exit. Please read with comprehension or get Hooked on Phonics.

China is socialist, and it's so-called markets have been created and built-up by American crony industries who want not just cheap non-competitive labor — but also literally uses slave labor too. It is still socialist, so it will eventually fail—including their Silk Road which has already run into trouble. In fact, their economy is in trouble.

A bigger threat is if they stop buying our debt.
What we are seeing in China at least in the energy market is what happens when a country doesn't give a shit about institutional barriers to scaling alternative energy. They scaled solar and a tech that was viewed as extremely expensive is now significantly cheaper. They are miles ahead of us in the eBus market because they don't give a shit if they break IP. Now take a look at how Elon musk started handling battery patents. He open sourced the patents where the oil companies hid them. The US will be a slow adopter of this tech but Europe is already becoming a huge customer.

At some point we have to recognize that these institutional barriers are in place. Before, China has beaten us by using shitty labor to produce shitty products. On alternative energy, they are not only killing us, they're out innovating us. Shouldn't be hard to put two and two together that we're beating ourselves a lot more than they are beating us.
Posts: 32,861
chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2018, 11:02 AM   #70
HonestChieffan HonestChieffan is offline
Seeking the Truth daily
 
HonestChieffan's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In the Country in MO
Casino cash: $34409
https://www.npr.org/2018/07/16/62934...ai-cave-rescue
__________________
Frazod to KC Nitwit..."Hey, I saw a picture of some dumpy bitch with a horrible ****tarded giant back tattoo and couldn't help but think of you." Simple, Pure, Perfect. 7/31/2013

Dave Lane: "I have donated more money to people in my life as an atheist that most churches ever will."

Come home to Jesus Dave. Come home.
Posts: 43,649
HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2018, 06:14 AM   #71
Eleazar Eleazar is offline
Deranging homers since 2003
 
Eleazar's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2003
Casino cash: $500
Washington (AFP) - Elon Musk has had a series of angry social media dust-ups with Wall Street analysts, journalists, employees and others.

But his latest outburst on Twitter attacking a British rescue worker in Thailand has raised fresh concerns over the star tech entrepreneur's stability and leadership abilities.

Musk, the South African-born innovator and billionaire behind Tesla and SpaceX, found himself in hot water after insulting Vern Unsworth, a British diver who worked on the Thai soccer team rescue and who dismissed Musk's plan to recover the trapped group.

The since-deleted weekend tweet referred to Unsworth as "pedoguy," an apparent reference to pedophilia, faced a deluge of criticism on social media and from analysts questioning whether Musk had crossed a line on responsible conduct for a CEO.

"This is the most brand-damaging thing Elon Musk has ever done," said Roger Kay, analyst with Endpoint Technologies Associates who follows the technology sector.

Kay said Musk appeared to be following in the footsteps of President Donald Trump in using Twitter to vent frustration and insult anyone with whom he disagrees.

"It's totally gratuitous. It wasn't necessary," Kay said of the Musk insult to the Briton, who has threatened a lawsuit. "It makes him very Trump-like."

Tesla shares skidded 2.75 percent to close at $310.10 following the latest controversy, adding to pressure on the electric automaker which has struggled to meet production targets for its Model 3, seen as crucial to its long-term viability.

- Pressure fractures -

Musk "is under a lot of pressure and we're seeing pressure fractures," Kay said.

"He's been sleeping in his factories trying to get production up and that's been difficult. But when he talks to investors, he has to reassure them that all that money isn't going to fall on the floor."

Musk has cultivated reputation as a creative genius, with some comparisons to another technology star known for being erratic, the late Apple-co-founder Steve Jobs.

Patrick Moorhead, analyst and consultant with Moor Insights & Strategy, said there were "some similarities up to this point" between Musk and Jobs, but that the latest personal insult appeared to cross a line.

"Steve jobs didn’t take it to this extent," Moorhead said.

To avoid long-term damage, "the first thing Musk needs to do is issue a huge apology," Moorhead said.

The analyst said the boards of Tesla and privately held SpaceX need to assert themselves in this situation to ensure Musk does not go off the rails.

"If he does the right thing, he can recover from this," Moorhead said. This is America, and everybody likes a comeback story."

Musk has become embroiled in a series of spats with the news media -- chastising reporters for focusing on accidents of autonomous cars instead of their safety potential, and accusing one news organization of being "relentlessly negative" about Tesla.

Last month, he alleged "sabotage" at Tesla's operations by an employee, who responded by claiming to be a "whistleblower."

When documents revealed he donated to a Republican political group, despite his criticism of the current administration, he responded by saying he gives "to both parties to maintain dialogue."

- Hero worship persona -

In an earnings call, he berated analysts for asking "boring" questions and sidestepped questions about Tesla's massive capital needs.

Musk's conduct "of course is not appropriate for a CEO," said Bob O'Donnell, founder of Silicon Valley-based Technalysis Research.

O'Donnell said Musk has fallen into a "hero worship persona" but has failed to live up to the responsibility that implies.

"He loves the fact that everything he says is reported in the media, but if you're in that position, you need to be an adult about it," O'Donnell said. "He keeps putting his foot in his mouth."

Trip Chowdhry of Global Equities Research, who has long been bullish on Tesla, said the latest dust-ups involving Musk only show "he is human," and don't detract from his quality as a great innovator.

"Tesla is generations ahead of anything that is available today," Chowdhry said. "They have a backlog of $14.5 billion (in orders), none of the competitors even have five cars in the backlog. They have software expertise, the competition is clueless."

Chowdhry said that like other important innovators, Musk has "zero tolerance" for any distractions from his goals, even if he lacks the public relations skills of most CEOs, and that within five to 10 years, Tesla's innovations will be more appreciated.

"Betting against Tesla is not only insane, but total stupidity," Chowdhry said.
Posts: 62,346
Eleazar is obviously part of the inner Circle.Eleazar is obviously part of the inner Circle.Eleazar is obviously part of the inner Circle.Eleazar is obviously part of the inner Circle.Eleazar is obviously part of the inner Circle.Eleazar is obviously part of the inner Circle.Eleazar is obviously part of the inner Circle.Eleazar is obviously part of the inner Circle.Eleazar is obviously part of the inner Circle.Eleazar is obviously part of the inner Circle.Eleazar is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2018, 06:17 AM   #72
Baby Lee Baby Lee is offline
Supporter
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Casino cash: $58698
- 'It makes him very Trumplike'
Posts: 73,946
Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2018, 08:59 AM   #73
ghak99 ghak99 is offline
Veteran
 

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Missouri
Casino cash: $0
Quote:
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 View Post
China is set to dominate us in the eBus market and likely will pull way ahead of us in terms of batteries, and therefore electric cars... maybe then driverless. Perhaps we should be looking a lot more into why one of our innovators would leave versus applauding his exit. You're a free market person. Maybe if the battery market had a true free market, it would be more scalable today.
I don't think it's that complicated.

He appears to claim to be a socialist, but a specific type of socialist. China will dump state funds into him and provide near slave labor for the greater good of their society while limiting any pushback that might inflame his ego. That's exactly the type of socialist he claims to be in the perfect scenario for his character to exist.

He makes an ignorant release deadline here, he gets called out for not being able to read a calendar. He makes an ignorant release deadline over there, they inform the press to praise his efforts and blame it on the people in the battery factory not working hard enough.

One of his busses breaks apart in mid air and kills someone here, the suits go to work to halt things until the cause is found and process fixed. Same situation in China... Damn, lets get this bus put back together so he can fix it, throw that guy in a hole over there, and write a story about him jumping out in front of the bus because his wife left him. Make sure you say something about how China Busses are Us will be up and running for tomorrow so everyone can get back to work making worthless junk to sell to the evil Americans.
Posts: 3,803
ghak99 is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.ghak99 is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.ghak99 is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.ghak99 is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.ghak99 is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.ghak99 is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.ghak99 is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.ghak99 is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.ghak99 is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.ghak99 is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.ghak99 is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2018, 10:38 AM   #74
chiefzilla1501 chiefzilla1501 is offline
In Search of a Life
 

Join Date: Aug 2008
Casino cash: $34597
Quote:
Originally Posted by ghak99 View Post
I don't think it's that complicated.

He appears to claim to be a socialist, but a specific type of socialist. China will dump state funds into him and provide near slave labor for the greater good of their society while limiting any pushback that might inflame his ego. That's exactly the type of socialist he claims to be in the perfect scenario for his character to exist.

He makes an ignorant release deadline here, he gets called out for not being able to read a calendar. He makes an ignorant release deadline over there, they inform the press to praise his efforts and blame it on the people in the battery factory not working hard enough.

One of his busses breaks apart in mid air and kills someone here, the suits go to work to halt things until the cause is found and process fixed. Same situation in China... Damn, lets get this bus put back together so he can fix it, throw that guy in a hole over there, and write a story about him jumping out in front of the bus because his wife left him. Make sure you say something about how China Busses are Us will be up and running for tomorrow so everyone can get back to work making worthless junk to sell to the evil Americans.
Yes a bizarre guy. Perfectly fine to criticize musk for his business practices and being a bizarre dude. I dont think he's nearly as good a businessman as hyped to be. I just think a lot of the demonization is manufactured by people who want to kill alternative energy for the wrong reasons. Claiming a guy is subsidized yet denying that oil companies have received extremely favorable government treatment over the decades is all spin.
Posts: 32,861
chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2018, 02:26 PM   #75
BucEyedPea BucEyedPea is offline
BucsPatsNoles
 
BucEyedPea's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: None of your business
Casino cash: $70063
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson View Post
Sounds like socialism works.
It doesn't but then you can't exactly read either. Those people still have no political rights and must fit profiles to enjoy any perks from what western capitalists toss it.
__________________
Posts: 105,961
BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:08 AM.


This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.