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Old 09-08-2022, 12:45 PM  
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Underrated thing about the Chiefs in the Dorsey/Veach era: trades.
I had a conversation and it came up that the Chiefs win all their trades.

They sure seem to, right? What trades in the Reid era, which of course includes General Managers John Dorsey and Brett Veach, can we definitively say we lost?

I think the closest you can get is some of the trade-ups in the draft, in particular the 2nd round, under Veach that ended up biting us in the tail and I think you can argue we lost those, but I think that's hard to evaluate.

As far as player-for-player, pick-for-player, or player-for-pick, I can't think of a single trade during this era where you can say "absolutely they lost that one for sure."

Maybe two seconds for Alex Smith? Hard to complain a ton about that, though.
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Old 09-08-2022, 12:46 PM   #2
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Old 09-08-2022, 12:48 PM   #3
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Old 09-08-2022, 12:53 PM   #4
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He helped us win a Super Bowl, but it’s hard to argue that we won the Frank Clark trade
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Old 09-08-2022, 12:54 PM   #5
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He helped us win a Super Bowl, but it’s hard to argue that we won the Frank Clark trade
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Old 09-08-2022, 12:55 PM   #6
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This.
Do we win the Super Bowl without him?

I am not sold that we do.
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The Alex Smith trade was fine.

It kept us from drafting a bust QB that year. He did help us reclaim the Division.

Plus, we were able to flip out of him for Fuller and a third.
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Old 09-08-2022, 12:57 PM   #8
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Oh wait!

I think we traded a 5th for Cameron Erving.
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Do we win the Super Bowl without him?

I am not sold that we do.
Probably not if you just subtract Frank Clark, but that’s only half the equation.

It depends on what we use that first round pick and all that cap space on.
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-Chiefs trade up for Breeland Speaks
-Chiefs trade a 7th or something for that jag Lonnie Johnson just to cut him (who cares)
-Frank Clark trade is debatable
-Marcus Peters for Thornhill + Watts (2nd/4th also debatable even though I'm glad Peters is gone)
-Book is out on Tyreek trade
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Old 09-08-2022, 01:11 PM   #11
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Nothing wrong with two seconds for Smith. Denver just gave up 2 firsts, 2 2nds, a starting TE, starting D-Lineman, and a backup QB for Alex Smith.

I kid (sort of).
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Nothing wrong with two seconds for Smith. Denver just gave up 2 firsts, 2 2nds, a starting TE, starting D-Lineman, and a backup QB for Alex Smith.

I kid (sort of).
Russell Wilson is a weirdo douchebag, but in no realm is Alex Smith anywhere close to as talented as Russell. Not even an almost 34 year old Wilson.
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The two draft picks that went in Frank Clark trade were pretty underwhelming.
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-Chiefs trade up for Breeland Speaks
-Chiefs trade a 7th or something for that jag Lonnie Johnson just to cut him (who cares)
-Frank Clark trade is debatable
-Marcus Peters for Thornhill + Watts (2nd/4th also debatable even though I'm glad Peters is gone)
-Book is out on Tyreek trade
So, what does the book say?

Speaks trade was certainly lost. Clark is a tough one because he was so good in that Super Bowl run.

We won the Peters trade.
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-Chiefs trade up for Breeland Speaks
-Chiefs trade a 7th or something for that jag Lonnie Johnson just to cut him (who cares)
-Frank Clark trade is debatable
-Marcus Peters for Thornhill + Watts (2nd/4th also debatable even though I'm glad Peters is gone)
-Book is out on Tyreek trade
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According to a new report from The Athletic’s Nate Taylor, the Kansas City Chiefs have traded for Houston Texans CB Lonnie Johnson Jr., who recently expressed on social media that he was leaving the Texans. Kansas City sent Houston a conditional 2024 seventh-round draft pick for Johnson.
Since Lonnie Johnson did not make the team, I really doubt that the Chiefs owe Houston anything since it was a conditional trade.
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