Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 314

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

warpaint* · 05-25-2013, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Who hired Yost?

The same guy that hired Hillman.

I am in agreeance w/ what you're implying.

It's time to clear the deck but that won't happen before the end of the season.

If I were DM I'd wack Yost as means of self preservation however given what he thinks works in terms of managing it's apparent he doesn't get it anyway.

Sure-Oz · 05-25-2013, 09:40 AM

If this team falls 10 games under or more, do they trade Santana (i'd think they'd have to)

Demonpenz · 05-25-2013, 09:42 AM

yeah they will trade Santana...wouldn't that surprised to see shields go as well if there was enough prospects.

MeatRock · 05-25-2013, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

If this team falls 10 games under or more, do they trade Santana (i'd think they'd have to)

Who would replace them in the rotation? Chen? Hoch?

Mama Hip Rockets · 05-25-2013, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz

yeah they will trade Santana...wouldn't that surprised to see shields go as well if there was enough prospects.

Maybe they will trade him back for Wil Myers?

Mama Hip Rockets · 05-25-2013, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeatRock

Who would replace them in the rotation? Chen? Hoch?

It really doesn't matter at this point, does it? It just means they'll lose 8-1 instead of 2-1.

Demonpenz · 05-25-2013, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by thurman merman

Maybe they will trade him back for Wil Myers?

**** that...the book is out on Mark Quinn II

MeatRock · 05-25-2013, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thurman merman

It really doesn't matter at this point, does it? It just means they'll lose 8-1 instead of 2-1.

True

Sure-Oz · 05-25-2013, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeatRock

Who would replace them in the rotation? Chen? Hoch?

Maybe Duffy or Paulino? Fact is that If the Royals are toast around the deadline they need to trade him for something. He won't be back next year. Shields im much more hesitant unless a nice package comes along. Fact is royals have $$$ to spend next year and Shields may be part of a good club (who knows)

MeatRock · 05-25-2013, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

Maybe Duffy or Paulino? Fact is that If the Royals are toast around the deadline they need to trade him for something. He won't be back next year. Shields im much more hesitant unless a nice package comes along. Fact is royals have $$$ to spend next year and Shields may be part of a good club (who knows)

Sure, if Paulino and Duff are ready at that time. I would not be surprised to see both of them in AAA for awhile after they recover from the surgery to readjust mechanics etc.

siberian khatru · 05-25-2013, 11:23 AM

Great JoPo post:

http://joeposnanski.blogspot.com/201...ings.html#more

**lewdog** · 05-25-2013, 11:33 AM

These ****s don't even deserve a game thread today and I promised myself I won't be watching today.

stonedstooge · 05-25-2013, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by lewdog

These ****s don't even deserve a game thread today and I promised myself I won't be watching today.

Damn straight

Sure-Oz · 05-25-2013, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeatRock

Sure, if Paulino and Duff are ready at that time. I would not be surprised to see both of them in AAA for awhile after they recover from the surgery to readjust mechanics etc.

I would prefer that but if the Royals have no shot it'd be a waste to keep Santana and let him walk.

ChiefsCountry · 05-25-2013, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

I would prefer that but if the Royals have no shot it'd be a waste to keep Santana and let him walk.

We would get a draft pick I think if he walks.
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