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Old 02-07-2013, 09:16 AM  
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Former LAPD officer on rampage in So Cal

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/07/us/lap...html?sr=fbmain




(CNN) -- A former Los Angeles police officer who police say has violently threatened his former colleagues shot at least two officers early Thursday, killing one, sparking a huge manhunt in Southern California, according to authorities.
Christopher Jordan Dorner, 33, is also wanted in a double slaying Sunday in Irvine, California.
The California Highway Patrol issued an alert Thursday morning urging officers in several Southern California counties to be on the lookout for Dorner after the overnight shootings.
Two officers in Riverside were shot, one fatally, police there confirmed to CNN. CNN affiliate KTLA reported another officer was shot in Corona, California.
Irvine police identified Dorner on Wednesday as the suspect in the February 3 deaths of Keith Lawrence and Monica Quan in Irvine.
Dorner also has made violent threats against other Los Angeles police officers, the agency said Wednesday.
"I will bring unconventional and asymmetrical warfare to those in LAPD uniform whether on or off duty," Dorner allegedly wrote in a lengthy letter promising retribution against the department, where he worked from 2005 until 2008. An LAPD source provided the document to CNN.
The letter writer claimed he was terminated for reporting excessive force by a fellow officer, and said his attacks were retribution for his termination, as well as a culture of racism and violence he says continues within the department.
He called the attacks against police "a necessary evil that I do not enjoy but must partake and complete for substantial change to occur within the LAPD and reclaim my name."
Los Angeles police warned people who encounter Dorner not to approach him, saying he is likely "armed and extremely dangerous."
"Our department is implementing all measures possible to ensure the safety of our LAPD personnel, their families and the Los Angeles community, and will continue to do so until Dorner is apprehended and all threats have been abated," police said in a statement.
CNN's Mallory Simon and Deanna Hackney contributed to this report.
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Old 02-12-2013, 07:58 PM   #1276
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How do you know he had no communication to the outside world? I'm sure he did. He loved the attention he gained.
The homeowners son said there was no TV, internet, phones.
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Old 02-12-2013, 07:58 PM   #1277
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There are numerous people all over Twitter who heard the police saying they were going to deploy a "burner" before the fire started through scanner traffic. The Radio Reference site had about 25,000 people on that scanner feed before they all got shut down.
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Old 02-12-2013, 07:59 PM   #1278
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Again, I don't think anyone had a problem with it when they did it to Booth...maybe the south had a problem with it.
I guess starting fires to capture suspects is a pretty good method.
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Old 02-12-2013, 08:00 PM   #1279
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Would he need to know that to set a fire, shoot himself, and expect people to think the cops set the fire? Even if the cops played innocent and didnt say anything about starting a fire, people would still suspect they did, even if they claimed otherwise in their official statement.

Im just playing devils advocate here. But you shouldnt make statements like that when theres such an incredibly easy response.
dude, again, the cops said " lets burn it" "get the gas" then made the media leave. Then the house burns.


Could be a coincidence. If so it's the greatest coincidence I've ever heard of
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Old 02-12-2013, 08:00 PM   #1280
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Where in the Constitution does it say "You should not burn down a house to capture a suspect?"
It talks about right to trial by jury. If you dispose of a suspect, no matter what he has done, when a way of getting him out alive is possible, you have to do it. If the cops kill him in defense of themselves then fine. If they kill him because he has already killed people or may again, that's taking away that right. You can say this guy risked that right when he kept fighting. It's not about this guy, its about our system.
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Old 02-12-2013, 08:00 PM   #1281
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He also said that there was a propane tank, but that doesn't fit your conspiracy.
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Old 02-12-2013, 08:01 PM   #1282
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I overheard something on the radio about a child abduction a few weeks back where the police asked the news to get rid of their helicopters so they could go get the suspect. Does anyone have a link to that story? I remember hearing something about it a few weeks ago, but I never read about it.
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Old 02-12-2013, 08:01 PM   #1283
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The homeowners son said there was no TV, internet, phones.
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Ok. So he couldn't have brought his own phone? You do realize smart phones can connect you to the world, instantly. Or maybe he had a radio with him. He did plan this out, I'm sure he thought "hey, how will I hear what the media is saying?"
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Old 02-12-2013, 08:02 PM   #1284
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No doubt. But in the end those actions by him can't transfer the power of the justice system over to the police. This is a situation where it's pretty unfair with the amount of things this guy has done. But to me, in the end, this is about protecting our ideals.
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Old 02-12-2013, 08:02 PM   #1285
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Shit. Now I'm just arguing for the sake of arguing.

Time to go make fun of Fisty instead!
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Old 02-12-2013, 08:03 PM   #1286
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It talks about right to trial by jury. If you dispose of a suspect, no matter what he has done, when a way of getting him out alive is possible, you have to do it. If the cops kill him in defense of themselves then fine. If they kill him because he has already killed people or may again, that's taking away that right. You can say this guy risked that right when he kept fighting. It's not about this guy, its about our system.
Ok how do you get the suspect out of the cabin alive?
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Old 02-12-2013, 08:03 PM   #1287
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It talks about right to trial by jury. If you dispose of a suspect, no matter what he has done, when a way of getting him out alive is possible, you have to do it. If the cops kill him in defense of themselves then fine. If they kill him because he has already killed people or may again, that's taking away that right. You can say this guy risked that right when he kept fighting. It's not about this guy, its about our system.
Well shit, I think if your house was on fire you would come out. So starting a fire was an attempt to flush him out. He didn't wanna come out after, so he dug his own grave.
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Old 02-12-2013, 08:03 PM   #1288
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He also said that there was a propane tank, but that doesn't fit your conspiracy.
You are right.

The police said "lets burn this ****er down" and "get the gas"


Not much of a conspiracy theory there. That's just connecting the dots
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Old 02-12-2013, 08:04 PM   #1289
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No, his actions can't transfer power, but he certainly can give up those rights.
That's just too much of a grey area. How do you determine when someone has given up those rights? In this case it may seem easy, but what about others? Unless the guy is in the act of threatening a life, you have to do whatever you can to take him alive. I know there are times that isn't possible, but this whole argument is about whether it should be allowed.

If you are saying by killing people and not turning themselves in they are giving up those rights, then are rights given up whenever the law is broken and you don't turn yourself in? I just worry about opening a can of worms. Cops need to do everything possible to take a guy in, no matter what the circumstances were leading up to or currently happening in a situation.
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Old 02-12-2013, 08:04 PM   #1290
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I guess Jason thinks Bin Laden should have gotten a fair trial. Damn those SEALS
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