****The official NEW new conference realignment thread.****

[Saul Good]

the second thread has been pronounced dead.

[baitism]

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

Yeah it's been awhile since KU has won a conference road game.

He is talking about real sports here, not college football.

[Saulbadguy]

http://dev.chuckoliver.net/2012/05/t...-big-12-story/

[alnorth]

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

http://dev.chuckoliver.net/2012/05/t...-big-12-story/

In other words "FSU and CU are leaving because they are dumb, and the ACC isn't trying to keep them"

What the hell does he think the ACC could have done, post-inviting Syracuse instead of WVU, to keep them? Why in the world did he think the ACC's academics means anything?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Wickedson

I can't wait until Kansas goes into Tallahasse and kicks Florida State's ass.

Beat a lesser opponent at that track and field stadium first. Baby steps grasshopper.

[Al Bundy]

Originally Posted by PGM

Beat a lesser opponent at that track and field stadium first. Baby steps grasshopper.

Ohh he was just trolling, KU is a guaranteed win for Florida State/Clemson every year if they join the Big 12 minus 2.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by UCF Knight

Ohh he was just trolling, KU is a guaranteed win for Florida State/Clemson every year if they join the Big 12 minus 2.

They are no Mizzou/A&M, but you're right, they'll still feast on mythical bird every year.

[eazyb81]

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

http://dev.chuckoliver.net/2012/05/t...-big-12-story/

This is good stuff.

I am one of the few who continue to be able to recognize the Big 12 as a fundamentally instable coalition. Between its new bowl partnership with the SEC and a 13-year “grant of rights” which binds each member institutions’ media rights (TV games) to the conference, the leagues’ future appears secure. I don’t however find a commitment genuine when it’s given at the point of a gun. The current schools’ commitment to the Big 12 was given when none of those schools had any other option for a conference home. Fact is Texas (and Texas Tech) and Oklahoma (and Oklahoma State) would rather be in the Pac 12 than Big 12. They applied for membership and were denied. Florida State and Clemson, if they do join, would much rather be in the SEC than Big 12, but were not invited. The Big 12 is a marriage of convenience at best and more likely of last resort. Eleven of 12 SEC member institutions if given the ability to join any conference would choose to remain with the SEC (I’m sure Missouri still deep-down covets Big 10 membership.) Twelve of 12 Big 10 schools and 12 of 12 Pac 12 schools would choose to stay in their league. If the Big 12’s membership could magically determine its own conference affiliation how many of them do you think would stay in the Big 12? Maybe Baylor and TCU? Kansas State and Iowa State?

A lack of options and now money are the only things binding the Big 12 schools together. They share none of the brotherhood and vision for the future which exists in the SEC, Big 10 and Pac 12. When other options present themselves, or more money is available elsewhere, you can bet your bottom dollar the Big 12 will again destabilize as its members continue to seek a more desirable home.


I never viewed a potential move by Florida State UNIVERSITY to the Big 12 simply in football terms. In this discussion, no one else has been able to move past that point. For better or worse a school’s conference affiliation influences the university at large in a number of ways I don’t think have ever been fully examined and that I don’t pretend to be able to predict. I can say this with certainty however: Florida State University allowing its football program to spearhead a decision of this magnitude and reach is dangerous.


Finally, and perhaps most inexcusable of all on my part, was my failure to remember that smart people do dumb things every minute of every hour of every day and they always have and always will.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Wickedson

I can't wait until Kansas goes into Tallahasse and kicks Florida State's ass.

In basketball maybe. In football, not a chance.

[Saul Good]

Big XII fans, what do you want to see happen with realignment?

[Reaper16]

I want this bowl game to be played in Arrowhead, but that ain't gonna' happen.

[alnorth]

What I want: FSU, Clemson, then stop at 12. SEC can grab a couple schools if they want. They already, perhaps foolishly, went to 14, so they may as well go to 16 to make it easier on scheduling. B1G and PAC 12 stand pat and do nothing. Notre Dame stubbornly insists on being independent forever, and fails to make it to even a major bowl, much less the championship game, for the next 25 years.

[Saulbadguy]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Big XII fans, what do you want to see happen with realignment?

Chadd Scott to be humiliated (publicly).

Beyond that I don't really care.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by alnorth

What I want: FSU, Clemson, then stop at 12. SEC can grab a couple schools if they want. They already, perhaps foolishly, went to 14, so they may as well go to 16 to make it easier on scheduling. B1G and PAC 12 stand pat and do nothing. Notre Dame stubbornly insists on being independent forever, and fails to make it to even a major bowl, much less the championship game, for the next 25 years.

Are you willing to have member institutions kick in $1,000,000 each in order to help with the buyout?

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

I want this bowl game to be played in Arrowhead, but that ain't gonna' happen.

I would be stunned if it's not in Dallas.

[alnorth]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Are you willing to have member institutions kick in $1,000,000 each in order to help with the buyout?

Missouri and Aggy is paying for a bunch of it. FSU/Clemson will have to kick in some of it (rumors say a rich FSU booster has promised to pay whatever isn't covered), and the rest will probably be an interest-free loan from the Big 12.