Cardinals ***OFFICIAL*** 2013 STL Cardinals Thread - Page 164

**BigRedChief** · 08:16 PM

From Bernie's column:

People have asked me why we’re not more emotional,” Matheny said in his office after Sunday’s game. “They say that we look subdued, always intense. That our actions are methodical, robotic at times. That’s what got us here. This isn’t the time to change it.”

It’s hard to argue with the manager’s assessment. The Cardinals finished with 97 victories, most by a Cards team since 2005, and tied with Boston for No. 1 in the majors this year.

Their 54-27 showing at Busch Stadium matches the 1985 team for the best single-season home winning percentage (.667) by the Cardinals since 1944.

A postseason theme has emerged, and it echoes the mantra that surfaced before the start of 2013: remember the fall of 2012. Remember falling to San Francisco in the NLCS.

The Cardinals’ veterans still haven’t forgotten. They still aren’t over it. It’s why Matheny resists GM John Mozeliak’s urgings to smile and put on a happier face.

Here's the most impressive aspect of the Cardinals' division championship: they prevailed over two other outstanding teams, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati.

The 97-win Cardinals were better this year (regular season) than they were in 2011, when they won 90 games, and 2012, when they won 88.
Here are a few numbers that help put the Cardinals' Central title and No. 1 NL seed in perspective:

* Since MLB switched to a three-division format in each league in 1994, this was only the sixth time that a division had three 90-plus win teams. St. Louis won 97, Pittsburgh 94, and Cincinnati 90.
* Since the format change, this was only the second time that an NL division had three 90-win teams. In 2002 the NL West had Arizona (98 wins), San Francisco (95) and Los Angeles (92).
* The 2013 Cardinals faced more esteemed and difficult competition at the top of the division than any of the division-winning teams managed by Tony La Russa.

The Pirates were hardly pushovers; the Cardinals had to work like mad and kick in with a strong finish to put the division away, and didn't clinch until Game No. 160.

The Cardinals went 9-10 against Pittsburgh this season and were 11-8 vs. Cincinnati.

The Cardinals won only three of 10 games at PNC Park in Pittsburgh and split the 10 games at Cincinnati. The Cardinals were 6-3 against both teams at Busch Stadium.

The Cardinals (1st), Pirates (3rd) and Reds (5th) ranked among the top five in wins in the NL. The three teams were among the top 11 in wins in MLB. All three teams finished in the top five in the majors for best overall ERA, and each were in the top five MLB for best starting-pitching ERA.

The original purpose to this piece was to point out that the Cardinals managed to finish with the league's best record while competing in a division that had three 90-win teams for only the second time in the last 19 years of National League baseball.

The Cardinals really earned this.
Thanks for reading ...
— Bernie

'Hamas' Jenkins · 06-28-2013, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Jay is just bad. His defense isn't good enough to cover the lack of hitting. Taveras isn't a cfer so we are either stuck with jay, or you're going to have to make a move for a cfer cause he just isn't good enough

He's the second worst defensive CF in baseball this year.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 06-28-2013, 10:23 PM

Filthy curveball.

Maybe every fifth day we should start someone like Blazek for an inning, then bring in Kelly.

O.city · 06-28-2013, 10:24 PM

They're probably going to have to decide which of these prospects they like te most an move a few.

I'd personally be more likely to move wacha and Jenkins with potential for Wong to be added if I wanted to make some moves

O.city · 06-28-2013, 10:25 PM

Kelly has earned the fifth spot , IMO.

**BigRedChief** · 06-28-2013, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city

Kelly has earned the fifth spot , IMO.

He does seem to prosper when he knows he is going to get multiple innings, even out of the bullpen.

O.city · 06-28-2013, 10:31 PM

We can't square up the fat man and yadi is trying to pull everything rolling it over.

O.city · 06-28-2013, 10:39 PM

And I'll be damned if our pen hasn't rounded into form and could actually be a strength

Pepe Silvia · 06-29-2013, 11:44 AM

Time for these guys to get their shit together now that the damn Pirates are on fire. What is it with Oakland and pitching? They always seem to have a plethora of rotation guys, they eventually trade all of them and then bring a new crop out of their system who are just as good if not better. lol

O.city · 06-29-2013, 02:14 PM

Beltran rips one, right at the left fielder

'Hamas' Jenkins · 06-29-2013, 03:28 PM

Jesus. Yadi should have been screaming bloody murder for Freese to get down. That was just dumb baseball and we got lucky as hell.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 06-29-2013, 03:49 PM

Freak thunderstorm hits, satellite goes out, Cards get four straight hits

Pepe Silvia · 06-29-2013, 04:10 PM

Waino being awesome like always.

VAChief · 06-29-2013, 06:35 PM

Free Matt Adams!

**BigRedChief** · 06-30-2013, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PackerinMo

Waino being awesome like always.

he is fun to watch pitch.

**BigRedChief** · 06-30-2013, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VAChief

Free Matt Adams!

He may be free come the trading deadline.

01-25-2013, 05:27 PM
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $3259627 VARSITY	*OFFICIAL* 2013 STL Cardinals Thread From Bernie's column: People have asked me why we’re not more emotional,” Matheny said in his office after Sunday’s game. “They say that we look subdued, always intense. That our actions are methodical, robotic at times. That’s what got us here. This isn’t the time to change it.” It’s hard to argue with the manager’s assessment. The Cardinals finished with 97 victories, most by a Cards team since 2005, and tied with Boston for No. 1 in the majors this year. Their 54-27 showing at Busch Stadium matches the 1985 team for the best single-season home winning percentage (.667) by the Cardinals since 1944. A postseason theme has emerged, and it echoes the mantra that surfaced before the start of 2013: remember the fall of 2012. Remember falling to San Francisco in the NLCS. The Cardinals’ veterans still haven’t forgotten. They still aren’t over it. It’s why Matheny resists GM John Mozeliak’s urgings to smile and put on a happier face. Here's the most impressive aspect of the Cardinals' division championship: they prevailed over two other outstanding teams, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati. The 97-win Cardinals were better this year (regular season) than they were in 2011, when they won 90 games, and 2012, when they won 88. Here are a few numbers that help put the Cardinals' Central title and No. 1 NL seed in perspective: * Since MLB switched to a three-division format in each league in 1994, this was only the sixth time that a division had three 90-plus win teams. St. Louis won 97, Pittsburgh 94, and Cincinnati 90. * Since the format change, this was only the second time that an NL division had three 90-win teams. In 2002 the NL West had Arizona (98 wins), San Francisco (95) and Los Angeles (92). * The 2013 Cardinals faced more esteemed and difficult competition at the top of the division than any of the division-winning teams managed by Tony La Russa. The Pirates were hardly pushovers; the Cardinals had to work like mad and kick in with a strong finish to put the division away, and didn't clinch until Game No. 160. The Cardinals went 9-10 against Pittsburgh this season and were 11-8 vs. Cincinnati. The Cardinals won only three of 10 games at PNC Park in Pittsburgh and split the 10 games at Cincinnati. The Cardinals were 6-3 against both teams at Busch Stadium. The Cardinals (1st), Pirates (3rd) and Reds (5th) ranked among the top five in wins in the NL. The three teams were among the top 11 in wins in MLB. All three teams finished in the top five in the majors for best overall ERA, and each were in the top five MLB for best starting-pitching ERA. The original purpose to this piece was to point out that the Cardinals managed to finish with the league's best record while competing in a division that had three 90-win teams for only the second time in the last 19 years of National League baseball. The Cardinals really earned this. Thanks for reading ... — Bernie Last edited by BigRedChief; 10-02-2013 at 08:16 PM..
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06-28-2013, 10:23 PM	#2447
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8039572	Filthy curveball. Maybe every fifth day we should start someone like Blazek for an inning, then bring in Kelly. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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06-28-2013, 10:24 PM	#2448
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2864064	They're probably going to have to decide which of these prospects they like te most an move a few. I'd personally be more likely to move wacha and Jenkins with potential for Wong to be added if I wanted to make some moves
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06-28-2013, 10:25 PM	#2449
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2864064	Kelly has earned the fifth spot , IMO.
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06-28-2013, 10:31 PM	#2451
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2864064	We can't square up the fat man and yadi is trying to pull everything rolling it over.
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06-28-2013, 10:39 PM	#2452
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2864064	And I'll be damned if our pen hasn't rounded into form and could actually be a strength
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06-29-2013, 11:44 AM	#2453
Pepe Silvia MVP Join Date: Oct 2012 Casino cash: $2024664	Time for these guys to get their shit together now that the damn Pirates are on fire. What is it with Oakland and pitching? They always seem to have a plethora of rotation guys, they eventually trade all of them and then bring a new crop out of their system who are just as good if not better. lol
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06-29-2013, 02:14 PM	#2454
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2864064	Beltran rips one, right at the left fielder
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06-29-2013, 03:28 PM	#2455
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8039572	Jesus. Yadi should have been screaming bloody murder for Freese to get down. That was just dumb baseball and we got lucky as hell. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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06-29-2013, 03:49 PM	#2456
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8039572	Freak thunderstorm hits, satellite goes out, Cards get four straight hits __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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06-29-2013, 04:10 PM	#2457
Pepe Silvia MVP Join Date: Oct 2012 Casino cash: $2024664	Waino being awesome like always.
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06-29-2013, 06:35 PM	#2458
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