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Old 11-12-2018, 06:51 PM  
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How's that North Korean denuclearization coming along?

In North Korea, Missile Bases Suggest a Great Deception

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WASHINGTON — North Korea is moving ahead with its ballistic missile program at 16 hidden bases that have been identified in new commercial satellite images, a network long known to American intelligence agencies but left undiscussed as President Trump claims to have neutralized the North’s nuclear threat.

The satellite images suggest that the North has been engaged in a great deception: It has offered to dismantle a major launching site — a step it began, then halted — while continuing to make improvements at more than a dozen others that would bolster launches of conventional and nuclear warheads.

The existence of the ballistic missile bases, which North Korea has never acknowledged, contradicts Mr. Trump’s assertion that his landmark diplomacy is leading to the elimination of a nuclear and missile program that the North had warned could devastate the United States.

“We are in no rush,” Mr. Trump said of talks with the North at a news conference on Wednesday, after Republicans lost control of the House. “The sanctions are on. The missiles have stopped. The rockets have stopped. The hostages are home.”

His statement was true in just one sense. Mr. Trump appeared to be referring to the halt of missile flight tests, which have not occurred in nearly a year. But American intelligence officials say that the North’s production of nuclear material, of new nuclear weapons and of missiles that can be placed on mobile launchers and hidden in mountains at the secret bases has continued.

And the sanctions are collapsing, in part because North Korea has leveraged its new, softer-sounding relationship with Washington, and its stated commitment to eventual denuclearization, to resume trade with Russia and China.
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Old 11-12-2018, 07:34 PM   #16
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So would you say that trump's statement in June that there is no longer a nuclear threat from North Korea is still accurate?

You remember when you limp wristed liberals were bitching that Trump was doing nothing about NK and that they were going to nuke us any day? Yeah and when Trump made a move, he was bitched at for doing so, and NK was definitely going to nuke us because of Trumps harsh words.

I believe the context of Trumps statements were about NK not being an immediate threat like the liberal media made them out to be, when he first took office.

He has always said " we will see" and has never said, " NK will never be a problem"
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Old 11-12-2018, 07:42 PM   #17
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Care to share with us when your concern about all this started? Somewhere around 2016?
Years ago, when the CIA ranked nk as the number one rogue nation threat to the us. Maybe Obama was president?
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Old 11-12-2018, 07:48 PM   #18
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Years ago, when the CIA ranked nk as the number one rogue nation threat to the us. Maybe Obama was president?
And he did what to stop that threat?
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Old 11-12-2018, 07:48 PM   #19
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Years ago, when the CIA ranked nk as the number one rogue nation threat to the us. Maybe Obama was president?
And maybe Obama could have given a shit back then instead of passing down more problems.
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Old 11-12-2018, 08:00 PM   #20
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You remember when you limp wristed liberals were bitching that Trump was doing nothing about NK and that they were going to nuke us any day? Yeah and when Trump made a move, he was bitched at for doing so, and NK was definitely going to nuke us because of Trumps harsh words.

I believe the context of Trumps statements were about NK not being an immediate threat like the liberal media made them out to be, when he first took office.

He has always said " we will see" and has never said, " NK will never be a problem"
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Nothing illustrates the hypocrisy of the Republican Party during the era of Donald Trump more than their willingness to give the president a complete pass on his bizarre statements about North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un.

Speaking at a rally on Saturday night in West Virginia, Trump revealed that he had “fell in love” with the very man Republicans labeled a “nut job” and a “lunatic” just a few years ago. “I was really being tough and so was he. And we would go back and forth. And then we fell in love, ok? No really. He wrote me beautiful letters. And they’re great letters. And then we fell in love.
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Old 11-12-2018, 08:03 PM   #21
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Jim Hammer and lostcause cheering on NK because..... Trump!

Noted.
Pointing out the incompetence of Trump is not the same as cheering on NK.
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Old 11-12-2018, 08:10 PM   #22
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So would you say that trump's statement in June that there is no longer a nuclear threat from North Korea is still accurate?
Are they still threatening us, are they still launching missiles over Japan?
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Old 11-12-2018, 08:48 PM   #23
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Are they still threatening us, are they still launching missiles over Japan?
So, if there is no saber rattle by them the threat doesn’t exist? Are you really taking the line that North Korea isn’t a threat to the US?
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Old 11-12-2018, 08:49 PM   #24
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And maybe Obama could have given a shit back then instead of passing down more problems.
Obama did and made his attempts. My issue with trump on this isn’t that he tried, but he declared victory when he achieved nothing.
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Old 11-12-2018, 09:13 PM   #25
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So, if there is no saber rattle by them the threat doesn’t exist? Are you really taking the line that North Korea isn’t a threat to the US?
Obviously not taking that line, but there is no question the temperature has been brought down... thats as good as anyone has managed in 16 years

So stop crying about Trump, bigger forces than him have their eyes on the situation
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Old 11-12-2018, 09:15 PM   #26
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Old 11-12-2018, 09:42 PM   #27
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So would you say that trump's statement in June that there is no longer a nuclear threat from North Korea is still accurate?
Have you been on the edge of your seat about the nuclear threat from North Korea since Clinton signed that ridiculous deal with them back in the 90's, or just since Trump has been in office? Be honest....
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Old 11-12-2018, 09:43 PM   #28
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Obama did and made his attempts. My issue with trump on this isn’t that he tried, but he declared victory when he achieved nothing.


I'd say suspending nuclear tests that halted missiles flying over the Pacific is a pretty big deal.

Obama admin was a walking foreign policy clown show.

Not necessarily Bushman-esque, but atrocious enough.
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Old 11-12-2018, 09:59 PM   #29
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Obama did and made his attempts. My issue with trump on this isn’t that he tried, but he declared victory when he achieved nothing.
Obummer didn't do shit. Funny how you lefties want to nit pick at Trump when he has made far more progress than your own failed president. I guess its like Russia when obummer told Putin to " cut it out" .
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Old 11-12-2018, 10:06 PM   #30
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