DV asking Gunther to revert to G Rob's schemes?

[shaneo69]

Q: Can you expound on what you meant when you said you’re putting them under too much pressure?

VERMEIL: “I already did. I already did. Tight bump-and-run man-to-man coverage when you’re out there on an island by yourself. You can win five or six times when they’re trying to go after you, but if you’re beaten one time and it’s six points that’s the one play you lost. I think we’ve got to look at ourselves and see how many times we did it last week. We got hurt in blitz coverages which normally you’re in tight man-to-man.

“Now there’s other approach that we’ve used here in the past: zone blitz pressures like we used in the second half. Drop a defensive lineman out, rush linebackers and play zone coverages which was a scheme we used here prior. We used some of it in the second half to take some of the pressure off of just one guy on one guy.”

Q: Did you tell Gunther Cunningham to scale it back a little bit?

VERMEIL: “No, I don’t interfere with him. I talk to the coaches on the field. I talk to Peter Giunta and I made a couple of suggestions. And, I talked to Vernon Dean, coaches who are on the field and involved in the perimeter scheme.”



Does this scare anyone else?

If the Chiefs had insanely awesome Dtackles then they could get away with more that 2 db 's on the wr's like what Tampa could do when they had a great Warren Sapp.

Only they could get away with that and not worry about the run.

Tampa's scheme was not to worry about the run but more about stopping the pass since their line dominated. They had like 2 LB playing run . The other was to stop the pass. Don't quote me on this.

They can't play that way anymore but thats the advantage of having a great player.

[Valiant]

Originally Posted by KCJohnny

In DV's defense, a lot of teams give up yards galore between the 20s and then stiffen in the RZ. Our guys get beat on a lot of big plays.
In Gun's defense, you have to start building your D with a stout run defense. That way you CAN stiffen in the RZ when most teams that succeed in the RZ run the ball well.

We are tied for 25th in rushing average on defense... 4.5 yards a play..

[Earthling]

Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav

It scares me that DV does not go straight to the real problem, lack of talent. It also bothers me that he bypasses Gun and goes directly to the position coaches for changes, that is a recipe for disaster.

Exactly my take as well...

[Wichita Lineman]

We have the right scheme and the right D coach. DV knows that but he can't come out and say that his players suck and he's going to replace the assholes until after the last game or everyone would give up on him.

[donkhater]

Zone is not a bad defense, guys. But when you rush your linebacker and safeties and drop your 300-lb lineman into coverage, it is a bad defense.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by donkhater

Zone is not a bad defense, guys. But when you rush your linebacker and safeties and drop your 300-lb lineman into coverage, it is a bad defense.

wrong again... teams with good defense drop lineman back into coverage all that time and still are successful.


our blitzers dont get there when they blitz because the offenses can keep max coverage and send out minimum receivers BECAUSE WE CAN'T cover with a crap.


our safeties can't cover any tightends... our corners can't cover wide recievers.


if you can't cover, nothing else really works.

[Eleazar]

It all starts with the corners.

We don't have the corners to play ANY defense, let alone a pressure defense.

[go bo]

Originally Posted by Cochise

It all starts with the corners.

We don't have the corners to play ANY defense, let alone a pressure defense.

sad, but true (mostly, warfield is adequate as a #2 cb)...