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Old 01-01-2013, 04:36 PM  
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Aaron Murray, anyone?

Just watched him today, and he looks solid. They even said that Tony Dungy advised that if he comes out early that the Chiefs should take him with the number one pick.

What sayeth the group?
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Old 01-02-2013, 02:58 AM   #46
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I agree with DJ's left nut here. Tyler Bray is very interesting.

If Tyler Bray looks just as good as Geno Smith and Tyler Wilson to you but isn't a first round pick, why not draft him in round 2 and take BPA?

Wouldn't mind that if we were high on him. Sign Alex Smith in FA, draft BPA rd 1, Bray round 2 and then you let Bray sit and work on his mechanics for a year or so.

It's a fix for the present and the future.

But that's only if you feel that Bray is as good as anyone in the class (ala Andy Dalton) and you're sure he'll be there in round 2.
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Old 01-02-2013, 03:30 AM   #47
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Bray will go in the first due to his upside, imo. Some team will be willing to overlook his character and mechanical flaws because of what he could become.
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Old 01-02-2013, 03:37 AM   #48
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Bray will go in the first due to his upside, imo. Some team will be willing to overlook his character and mechanical flaws because of what he could become.
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Old 01-02-2013, 03:39 AM   #49
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Bray will go in the first due to his upside, imo. Some team will be willing to overlook his character and mechanical flaws because of what he could become.
I think it is the same mechanical flaws that keep him out of the first round, just barely. Bray in my opinion, is the man to watch and the combine and I'm so ****ing stoked to watch.
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Old 01-02-2013, 03:51 AM   #50
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But Brock effing Osweiler went in the second round and he doesn't have near the upside Bray does. Thats why I think Bray goes in the first. Some team will overpay. I guess if he pans out its not overpaying.
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Old 01-02-2013, 03:51 AM   #51
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You're right. We shouldn't draft a qb at all.
Huh?

I said your idea of dumping him and trading for another if he doesn't produce 10 wins in his rookie season is dumb.

Where did you get this?
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Old 01-02-2013, 04:17 AM   #52
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But Brock effing Osweiler went in the second round and he doesn't have near the upside Bray does. Thats why I think Bray goes in the first. Some team will overpay. I guess if he pans out its not overpaying.
That's also a draft where half the teams picked up a QB by the end of the third round, following a draft where half of the other teams picked up a QB in the first 2 rounds. For that reason, I'm thinking, hoping Bray slides.

In the other thread I may be guilty of trolling just a little since everyone was appalled by that Mock, I totally find it feasible that the Chiefs of all teams will pass up Geno in the first and draft some gawdawful Defensive Lineman from the SEC, and then go and draft a 2nd round QB, and if that is the case, i want Bray to be there. Having said that, I really do not think nearly as many QBs are going to go in the first round like they have over the last 2 years, there just isn't the talent pool available. There's plenty of guys in the pool, just not talented enough to risk a first rounder on. At least that's my gut feeling prior to the combine.
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Old 01-02-2013, 05:12 AM   #53
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Murray has been my sleeper for the last few weeks. Provided he declares (he may have by now, I dunno) and has a good combine, I think he'll go in the top half of the 1st round.
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Old 01-02-2013, 05:25 AM   #54
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I'd rather have Geno, Wilson, Barkley

before I even THINK about Murray
Barkley?

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Old 01-02-2013, 08:48 AM   #55
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Murray should go back for his senior season.
I think he shouldn't, but who knows. It will all depend on his draft grade if he decides to go back or not. Coming back does not always work in a QBs favor. See Locker, Barkley, Landry, possibly Wilson to name a few.
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Old 01-02-2013, 09:46 AM   #56
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I think he shouldn't, but who knows. It will all depend on his draft grade if he decides to go back or not. Coming back does not always work in a QBs favor. See Locker, Barkley, Landry, possibly Wilson to name a few.
If you get a first round draft grade, you go - period.

There's too much money to be made and too much injury risk to stay behind. I love college football, but I think any parent/coach/adviser is doing a kid a huge disservice by telling him to stay in if he's a first or probably even a 2nd round prospect (though the 2nd rounders depend on the player).

For every player that moves up in the draft, there's another that moves down. Ultimately I think Murray will get a 1st round grade or at the very least a guaranteed "Brees" pick when Jacksonville takes him at #1 in the 2nd. That might be good enough to convince him to go.
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Old 01-02-2013, 11:12 AM   #57
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Sounds too much like Aaron Curry. I'm not sure we can risk that.
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Old 01-02-2013, 11:13 AM   #58
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Huh?

I said your idea of dumping him and trading for another if he doesn't produce 10 wins in his rookie season is dumb.

Where did you get this?
You were saying SNR?
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Sounds too much like Aaron Curry. I'm not sure we can risk that.
Can you look into his eyes and see that he wants to win?

If not, he's no Aaron Curry.
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I would take Smith and Wilson before Murray but I don't mind Murray. Glennon and Manuel interest me as well. I do not want Barkley and see him as a seconder now anyways.
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