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Old 12-10-2012, 03:44 PM  
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Any of you guys worried this year marks the beginning of another seriously dry spell for Chiefs football? I can easily see them blowing for another decade based on this horrific tenure by Pioli. Am I just paranoid or is this a legitimate fear? I don't want to become a casual fan who watches 3 games a year.

Anybody have any reason for optimism in 2013 and 2014? I know high first round draft picks are reason for optimism but the bust rate for quarterbacks is higher than defensive linemen and we all know how we've fared selecting early defensive linemen.
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Old 12-10-2012, 04:03 PM   #31
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A few players, a GM, and a coach who isn't looking over his shoulder at the GM would make a lot of problems go away.
I agree. Why is it like that?

Why is the organization at every single level inept?

Why has it been inept for 20 or so years?

I don't ****ing know the answer to any of this because it isn't obvious to me. People who have had success in other places have come here and fallen flat on their faces. What is it about the organization the Hunt family has built in Kansas City that brings failure.
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Old 12-10-2012, 04:04 PM   #32
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The common denominator isn't Hunt.
False.
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Old 12-10-2012, 04:04 PM   #33
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This team is a QB away from being a dominant team.

But in today's NFL...you MUST have a QB or you're toast.

Look how shitty the Broncos were w/ Tebow. Now, they're one of the best teams in football w/ Peyton Manning.

Why? The other players know he's winner. He's a true leader. They do whatever the hell he says in practice, meeting rooms etc. They play hard for him and don't wanna let him down because they all know if they do their part he will put them in a position to win a championship

That's why I've never understood the whole "Cassel is a great leader/teammate BS talk" No he's not. He sucks ass. We all see it and so do the coaches and players. In the NFL you lead by example. How much you wanna bet Bowe goes home and bitches about Cassel all day long behind his back? Why wouldn't he? I would. Bowe would be a 1,300+ 10+ TD WR with Peyton Manning. Bowe wouldn't drop nearly the amount of passes as he does now because Manning wouldn't put up w/ that shit.

We can't ever unleash Hali and Houston on QB's because we don't ever play w/ a lead. If we had a Peyton Manning, someone that could get the team out to a 2TD lead...then this team would destroy opposing QB's and our defense would look a lot better than it has.
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Old 12-10-2012, 04:05 PM   #34
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False.
Sorry but Clark was not responsible for the Carl and Herm era.
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Old 12-10-2012, 04:05 PM   #35
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Old 12-10-2012, 04:05 PM   #36
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You mean like 3x executive of the year and a young hotshot coordinator from one of the SuperBowl teams?
Chiefs are not far off.

It was not long ago when SF looked like ass.

Look what Harbaugh did for that team.
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Old 12-10-2012, 04:05 PM   #37
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Old 12-10-2012, 04:06 PM   #38
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Exactly. He did what we all wanted him to do and it still isn't working. This thing is bigger than a few players and a GM.
He hired the wrong guy.
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He hired the wrong guy.
Well that makes me feel better.
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The common denominator isn't Hunt.

It's shitty hires.

Carl hiring Herm was a shitty hire.

Clark hiring Pioli was a shitty hire.

The second we get a good GM or HC in here we'll be competitive again.
The problem is, some of these GMs think they have to hire guys from their circle of friends.
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The problem is, some of these GMs think they have to hire guys from their circle of friends.
Sounds like a bad organizational philosophy.
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Old 12-10-2012, 04:08 PM   #42
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When McDumbass nearly destroyed the Donkeys, we all thought the damage would last a lot longer than it did. John Elway and John Fox turned things around almost immediately.

That gives me hope for the Chiefs. They just need to make smart hires this time.
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Old 12-10-2012, 04:09 PM   #44
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Another problem is that most of these players have no idea how to be consistent in the NFL. They don't what it's like to win week in and week out. Most of their active playing time in the league has been crappy losses...and it all starts from QB.

Huard
Thigpen
Croyle
Cassel
Orton
Palko
Quinn
Stanzi

That's A LOT of crap at the most important position in team sports. In today's NFL you just can't win like that. If you have a Peyton Manning, Brady, Rodgers etc, then you instantly become a mutli-threat team.
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Clark hasn't been on the job that long. He had one big swing and he missed so we may not be in a horrible position here but the wheels of this thing came off so horribly it makes wonder if this is a family and organization that understands how to win. That is all.
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