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Old 04-25-2011, 03:51 PM  
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Game of Thrones (spoiler-free zone)

A few have suggested it, might as well test the waters. The idea is to give people who haven't read the books a safe place to talk about the show.

A few quick ground rules:
  • No Spoilers!!!!! for upcoming episodes.
  • Larger Song of Ice and Fire discussion should be limited to the other thread although I think a tiny bit of book delving to fill in holes should be okay (example of this would be talking about Catelyn and her treatment of the wolves in the novel, which was alluded to on TV but never really made clear...)
  • Everything that happened that week is fair game once an episode airs. So if you don't watch on Sunday night, I'd stay outta here until you do...
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Old 04-29-2014, 09:33 AM   #1816
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Even so, that chick has been marching with her army for like 4 seasons and all we've gotten so far from her is a rehash of David and Goliath or the scene from Achilles with Brad Pitt.
It was called Troy, not Achilles.

And maybe you'd just be happier watching something else?
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Old 04-29-2014, 09:43 AM   #1817
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Silock's criticism is valid. It's a common weakness of long fantasy series, imo. The authors are aiming for some kind of triumphal ending that ties everything up. In the meantime, they're so in love with creating in their world that they keep spinning off new ideas and threads in the created world, simultaneously slowing the pace of the original story lines.

That being said, a LOT happens in GRRM's world in comparison to say... Wheel of Time.
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Old 04-29-2014, 10:00 AM   #1818
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Silock's criticism is valid. It's a common weakness of long fantasy series, imo. The authors are aiming for some kind of triumphal ending that ties everything up. In the meantime, they're so in love with creating in their world that they keep spinning off new ideas and threads in the created world, simultaneously slowing the pace of the original story lines.

That being said, a LOT happens in GRRM's world in comparison to say... Wheel of Time.
Yeah i agree. I understand what Silok is saying. I personally don't feel that way, but i get it and i can understand why someone would feel that way. This show is essentially one great big buildup.
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Old 04-29-2014, 11:17 AM   #1819
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I'd say it like this, it may contain elements of soap opera, but if we are delved into a world where we learn the ins and outs of social propriety and a misstep leads to dire consequences across a kingdom, even if those consequences are largely offscreen, I still prefer that to bland dudes running into people in the woods and sticking a sword through another bland dude.

Shakespeare's works weren't exactly Battle of Helm's Deep, but they could convince you such a battle was inevitable.

Littlefinger discussing his ambitions to Sansa in the most recent episode is one example.

This is perhaps the epitome



give me a thousand great scenes like this over an epic battle.
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Old 04-29-2014, 11:24 AM   #1820
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Is anyone curious how Grey Worm and Missandei will work out, given Grey Worm's, . . . predicament?

Perhaps;

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Old 04-29-2014, 11:27 AM   #1821
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Old 04-29-2014, 11:30 AM   #1822
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Old 04-29-2014, 11:31 AM   #1823
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That was Grey Worm practicing his english again.

Oh, and they didn't show it, but he also took time to teach english to all the slaves so they could read it.
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Old 04-29-2014, 01:38 PM   #1824
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It was called Troy, not Achilles.

And maybe you'd just be happier watching something else?
Oh yeah. Thanks for the correction.

Anyway, maybe I would. The problem is that I actually like it. I just want a little more from it.
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Old 04-29-2014, 08:31 PM   #1825
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Oh yeah. Thanks for the correction.

Anyway, maybe I would. The problem is that I actually like it. I just want a little more from it.
GoT has the highest budget on TV but it still can't even come close to movie quality on the battles.
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Old 04-29-2014, 08:33 PM   #1826
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The Planet of the Apes sequels in the 1970s/80s didn't have a budget, either, but they managed to do it.
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Old 04-29-2014, 09:08 PM   #1827
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Beneath the planet of the apes had a budget of 2.5 million to 4.7 depending on who you ask. 2.5 inflated to today is around 16 Million. If you take into account the cost of set design for filming in SD versus HD there is an even bigger difference.

Side note: I toured NBC Studios in NY just at the onset of the HD revolution. They had one News set that was HD the rest were SD. They told us that they could use cardboard and duct tape on the SD set and they would look like wood and stainless steel once they added a bit with markers.

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Beneath the planet of the apes had a budget of 2.5 million to 4.7 depending on who you ask. 2.5 inflated to today is around 16 Million. If you take into account the cost of set design for filming in SD versus HD there is an even bigger difference.
I was really talking about Battle for the Planet of the Apes. The budget sucked, so they used a few wide shots, but mostly close up shots to give a sense of a bigger battle going on. There are tricks to make it happen.
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Even so, that chick has been marching with her army for like 4 seasons and all we've gotten so far from her is a rehash of David and Goliath or the scene from Achilles with Brad Pitt.
I liked that scene in Troy.
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I'd say it like this, it may contain elements of soap opera, but if we are delved into a world where we learn the ins and outs of social propriety and a misstep leads to dire consequences across a kingdom, even if those consequences are largely offscreen, I still prefer that to bland dudes running into people in the woods and sticking a sword through another bland dude.

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This is perhaps the epitome



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100% agree. And that is a phenomenal scene.
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