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Old 07-20-2019, 10:58 AM  
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This is why Damien Williams is our starting RB

We only got a small sample size last year of what this guy can do. Remember Jamaal Charles, we didn't know what we really had until he got the opportunity to carry the ball. Damien is going to be a top 5 back in 2019. Mark my words.

There is a play (not on this video) against the Chargers where he took a handoff and took it between I believe the LT and LG for 10 yards so fast I actually thought it was Hill taking the handoff. He put his pads down and nailed Derwin James. James took him down but Damien won the battle. So impressive! I wish clay could find that and Gif it up.

Just watch the way this guy runs. His quickness, his power, his vision, his hands, his pad level at the point of attack. He's a complete back.

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Old 07-20-2019, 11:55 AM   #16
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When we signed the dude I thought he was a hidden gem. He's the perfect back in this offense and he's not going to break the bank. The fact that's he's under contract for this year and next is perfect.
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Old 07-20-2019, 11:55 AM   #17
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I knew what KC had with Charles the moment they drafted him. He was a 1st round talent with elite speed and excellent vision to run inside and outside. I was begging this team to trade LJ while his value was peaked, knowing he was mostly a product of a dominant OL.

Williams is fine for what we do, but he's not Jamaal Charles. Reid can get production out of the position regardless of who is there.
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Old 07-20-2019, 11:56 AM   #18
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Well yeah, he has a 4.0 ypc NOW because he got the benefit of playing in a Patrick Mahomes + Tyreek Hill + Travis Kelce + Andy Reid offense. Any Top 60 running back in the league would have success in such an offense.
Okay, so he good then?

Was he a wasted 1st round pick in your eyes? Like Mecole Hardman is a wasted 1st round pick to you?
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Old 07-20-2019, 11:57 AM   #19
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Well yeah, he has a 4.0 ypc NOW because he got the benefit of playing in a Patrick Mahomes + Tyreek Hill + Travis Kelce + Andy Reid offense. Any Top 60 running back in the league would have success in such an offense.

To your second point, you don't want to control the clock if you are a superior team. If you are a better team, you want as many possessions as possible. That would be a valid argument if you weren't better than the other team. That is why you see especially in college basketball and college football the inferior team slow the game down all the time. For some reason it works for Virginia (basketball) but that is one of the only anomalies. Slowing the game down and giving PATRICK MAHOMES & FUTURE HOF ANDY REID LESS possessions instead of more allows more luck into the game.
I think you're looking at it wrong. He wasn't used correctly in the past. I read someone saying the dolphins liked him for goal line situations. All you have to do is look at the video in the OP and you can see the talent he has. Vision , speed and hands and watch the level he runs at. He has it all. Good coaches game for the talent they have.
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Old 07-20-2019, 11:58 AM   #20
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Old 07-20-2019, 12:00 PM   #21
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The dude performed in the playoffs. Why people suddenly want to doubt him is beyond me.
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Old 07-20-2019, 12:00 PM   #22
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I hope we take the committee approach. Keep the backs fresh and rotate often.

Hyde, Thompson, and both Williams is a nice group and they should all see plenty of opportunities.

I’ll take a group like this over 1 elite back any day.
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I found the play that really impressed me so much.

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My God the drop by Hill right before that
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Old 07-20-2019, 12:07 PM   #24
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Well yeah, he has a 4.0 ypc NOW because he got the benefit of playing in a Patrick Mahomes + Tyreek Hill + Travis Kelce + Andy Reid offense. Any Top 60 running back in the league would have success in such an offense.

To your second point, you don't want to control the clock if you are a superior team. If you are a better team, you want as many possessions as possible. That would be a valid argument if you weren't better than the other team. That is why you see especially in college basketball and college football the inferior team slow the game down all the time. For some reason it works for Virginia (basketball) but that is one of the only anomalies. Slowing the game down and giving PATRICK MAHOMES & FUTURE HOF ANDY REID LESS possessions instead of more allows more luck into the game.
Yes and he will be playing with these guys the next two years as well. So if he averages 5.1 yards a carry again that gives you a Lot of flexibilty.

You are wanting the Chiefs to be a 1-dimensional passing only team. In bad weather and Playoff time- you Have to be able to run the ball. And control the clock to close games out which we were terrible at last year.

I really don't care what he did on all those shitty Miami teams- he looked pretty explosive for us during the playoffs and will be a big weapon when teams try and blitz Mahomes. I think you will be happy with his production this year- not just running but catching the ball as well.
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I knew what KC had with Charles the moment they drafted him. He was a 1st round talent with elite speed and excellent vision to run inside and outside. I was begging this team to trade LJ while his value was peaked, knowing he was mostly a product of a dominant OL.

Williams is fine for what we do, but he's not Jamaal Charles. Reid can get production out of the position regardless of who is there.
I think he runs more like Priest- the way he uses his blockers. Very fluid, great cut back moves and I like how he plows forward for that extra yard ala Marcus Allen.
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My God the drop by Hill right before that
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Old 07-20-2019, 12:28 PM   #27
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Lots of these arguments never make any sense to me:

If you believe "He was only good because he was in an Andy Reid offense" then unless the Chiefs have fired Andy and I haven't heard about it, you literally shouldn't give a shit who the running back is?

If you don't believe he was only good because of the offense he was in, then well he averaged 5.1 YPC last season, that's absolutely good - it's not like it was a tiny sample size either.
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He also had 3 TDs vs the Pats in the AFC Championship game. He broke a defenders ankles on the Colts. Dude reminds me of a mix of Jamaal Charles and Priest Holmes
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I hope we take the committee approach. Keep the backs fresh and rotate often.

Hyde, Thompson, and both Williams is a nice group and they should all see plenty of opportunities.

Iíll take a group like this over 1 elite back any day.
Keep them healthy as well. Williams was fresh for the post season. Itíd be great to keep guys rested so that someone can be fresh for the second half of the season and playoffs.
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