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Old 05-10-2014, 10:16 PM  
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The Chiefs had pressing needs after a rough free agency, and they still have massive questions on the offensive line and at wide receiver. Dee Ford is a nice long-term gamble, but should start his career as a part-time player. Third-round cornerback Phillip Gaines seems more like a developmental prospect. Fourth-round RB/WR/return/cornerback/football player De'Anthony Thomas is a wild card. This was a draft in which the Chiefs needed some instant-impact players, and it's hard to see them here.
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Old 05-12-2014, 01:33 PM   #436
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DeAnthony Thomas in the 4th was a reach?


Al....righty then.
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Old 05-12-2014, 01:34 PM   #437
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I think some of it has to do with people getting hung up over the "DE" position. I'm still seeing people that think he is a 3-4 DE and not knowing that he will play OLB and is a good pass rusher. I still see people writing that he was drafted to replace TJax.
This. I had to walk away from a coworker cause I couldn't get it through his head Ford would play OLB.

Him: "BUT THE TV SAID DE!!!"

Me: "Yeah, he played DE in college, but he'll switch to OLB just like Tamba switched a few years ago"

Him: "BUT IT SAID DE!!!"

Me:
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Old 05-12-2014, 01:36 PM   #438
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This. I had to walk away from a coworker cause I couldn't get it through his head Ford would play OLB.

Him: "BUT THE TV SAID DE!!!"

Me: "Yeah, he played DE in college, but he'll switch to OLB just like Tamba switched a few years ago"

Him: "BUT IT SAID DE!!!"

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Let me guess, you said "He was a DE in a 4-3 defense" and they got all glossy-eyed...
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Old 05-12-2014, 01:46 PM   #439
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This. I had to walk away from a coworker cause I couldn't get it through his head Ford would play OLB.

Him: "BUT THE TV SAID DE!!!"

Me: "Yeah, he played DE in college, but he'll switch to OLB just like Tamba switched a few years ago"

Him: "BUT IT SAID DE!!!"

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My brother texted me after the pick, questioning why we would take another DE in the 1st round. I simply replied with "shutup stupid".
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Old 05-12-2014, 01:52 PM   #440
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DeAnthony Thomas in the 4th was a reach?


Al....righty then.
I guess they missed seeing his highlight film-holy shit the kid has some moves.
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Old 05-12-2014, 01:52 PM   #441
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Let me guess, you said "He was a DE in a 4-3 defense" and they got all glossy-eyed...
His mind would probably melt if I tried to explain the differences between a 4-3 and 3-4 to him.
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Old 05-12-2014, 01:54 PM   #442
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At the end of the day KC was in a position to try to fill starting holes in the roster. Instead they went with a bunch of specialists, some of which had a history of missing significant time due to injuries. That just brings back bad memories of Croyle, Moeki, Bell, Kelce and just about everyone other than Roaf.

Personally, I have no idea what direction the team is going in. I expect them to extend Smith soon, but I have no idea why if they aren't going to protect him or give him weapons.
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Old 05-12-2014, 02:02 PM   #443
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Personally, I have no idea what direction the team is going in. I expect them to extend Smith soon, but I have no idea why if they aren't going to protect him or give him weapons.
I actually agree with this.
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Old 05-12-2014, 02:47 PM   #444
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What?

I mean, he could be right but there's absolutely NO WAY he has sources inside the Chiefs telling him they didn't like that pick.
my thoughts exactly...
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Old 05-12-2014, 03:27 PM   #445
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Fox Sports gave us a B, atleast they're being fair.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/photos/...-051214#img_16
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Old 05-12-2014, 03:44 PM   #446
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Fox Sports gave us a B, atleast they're being fair.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/photos/...-051214#img_16
Who exactly isn't being "fair"?

When 4 of your 6 picks have significant injury histories and you didn't fill any needs - perceived or real - people aren't going to think much of your draft.

The medical risks alone justify "C" grades.
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Old 05-12-2014, 03:46 PM   #447
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Who exactly isn't being "fair"?

When 4 of your 6 picks have significant injury histories and you didn't fill any needs - perceived or real - people aren't going to think much of your draft.

The medical risks alone justify "C" grades.
I find it very odd, though, that analysts consistently advocate "BPA, BPA" but then grade with a strong eye to need.

It's contradictory at best.

I really don't give a shit about "need" when it comes to the draft. FA is where a team should address needs.
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Old 05-12-2014, 03:49 PM   #448
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I'll just go ahead and parrot Deez's post.

Most here seem to be pretty happy with this one OTWP, you're in the minority.
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Old 05-12-2014, 03:49 PM   #449
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Well, I can't give him a pass on Bowe either. 2.5 years of guaranteed base salary is highway robbery.

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I'll just go ahead and parrot Deez's post.

Most here seem to be pretty happy with this one OTWP, you're in the minority.
I think it's possible for need and BPA to meet, though. Dennard, for example, would have been my choice in the first round because I think he was the BPA.
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