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'Hamas' Jenkins · 05:43 PM

None of this matters. Fire Pinkel.

Mosbonian · 02-25-2014, 07:34 AM

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Sam had a disappointing combine. Didn't show much strength or explosiveness. Britt didn't wow with anything other than size.

Josey was spectacular. Third best 40 and top five in both cone drills.

Sam being disappointing seems to be a big story....there have been guys who did poorly at the combine and then went on to good careers. He needs more coaching and time to build himself into the physique necessary to compete. He's probably good as a Special Teams player right now...but unless he works on his core competencies to make them stronger he won't have a long career. Shame too...

Right now, Josey is the guy everyone is whispering about quietly hoping no one hears the conversation. Talking out loud everyone says "well he was hurt" and "small back couldn't take the wear and tear"...."doesn't have breakaway speed". (Well yeah, but you just described half of the RB corp in the NFL)

He's not going to be a breakaway back, but he's got all the skills to be a Sprole's type of player and his character/personal life are what GM's and Coaches have wet dreams over.

**Bowser** · 02-25-2014, 09:52 AM

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Josey ran 4.40 flat. I hope this shuts up some of the assholes (Todd McShay) that talked about his lack of speed and being "quick" rather than "fast".

Well, I had a pipe dream of Josey making it to the fifth round where we would snatch him up. His 40 time alone probably kills that dream. Good for him, though. I will pull for HJ no matter what team he ends up on.

WhawhaWhat · 02-25-2014, 11:06 AM

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Well, I had a pipe dream of Josey making it to the fifth round where we would snatch him up. His 40 time alone probably kills that dream. Good for him, though. I will pull for HJ no matter what team he ends up on.

If Josey goes to the Raiders or Broncos then we can't be friends until he leaves those teams.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-25-2014, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Mosbonian

Sam being disappointing seems to be a big story....there have been guys who did poorly at the combine and then went on to good careers. He needs more coaching and time to build himself into the physique necessary to compete. He's probably good as a Special Teams player right now...but unless he works on his core competencies to make them stronger he won't have a long career. Shame too...

Right now, Josey is the guy everyone is whispering about quietly hoping no one hears the conversation. Talking out loud everyone says "well he was hurt" and "small back couldn't take the wear and tear"...."doesn't have breakaway speed". (Well yeah, but you just described half of the RB corp in the NFL)

He's not going to be a breakaway back, but he's got all the skills to be a Sprole's type of player and his character/personal life are what GM's and Coaches have wet dreams over.

He absolutely has the skills to be a breakaway back.

Charles ran a 4.38 on a faster track (old RCA dome). Josey ran a 4.43 (official) in Lucas Oil. If Charles was a breakaway back, and I think we can all argue he was, then Josey surely is.

Mosbonian · 02-25-2014, 11:41 AM

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He absolutely has the skills to be a breakaway back.

Charles ran a 4.38 on a faster track (old RCA dome). Josey ran a 4.43 (official) in Lucas Oil. If Charles was a breakaway back, and I think we can all argue he was, then Josey surely is.

I think the one thing that is correct that people worry about with him would be the constant punishment on his smaller frame.

In the scheme of calling him a breakaway back, yes he has the skills to, but I guess I don't see him like I do Jamaal. JMO and yes I can be wrong as rain.

duncan_idaho · 02-25-2014, 11:42 AM

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He absolutely has the skills to be a breakaway back.

Charles ran a 4.38 on a faster track (old RCA dome). Josey ran a 4.43 (official) in Lucas Oil. If Charles was a breakaway back, and I think we can all argue he was, then Josey surely is.

If he ran that well, he's probably 95 percent of the way back to where he was before the knee injury. Which is pretty amazing considering how terrible and devastating that injury was reported to be.

I still wonder if MAYBE another ounce or two of speed might be in those legs (maybe getting him to a flat 4.4, officially?). But can't overstate how excited I am for Henry. Kid deserves it.

Mosbonian · 02-25-2014, 12:20 PM

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If he ran that well, he's probably 95 percent of the way back to where he was before the knee injury. Which is pretty amazing considering how terrible and devastating that injury was reported to be.

I still wonder if MAYBE another ounce or two of speed might be in those legs (maybe getting him to a flat 4.4, officially?). But can't overstate how excited I am for Henry. Kid deserves it.

Honestly after watching all the MU football over the years, HJ is the one guy I want to root for to make it in the pros more than any other MU guy. What he has done to get to where he is now, and to be humble about it says a lot for his character.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-25-2014, 12:38 PM

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I think the one thing that is correct that people worry about with him would be the constant punishment on his smaller frame.

In the scheme of calling him a breakaway back, yes he has the skills to, but I guess I don't see him like I do Jamaal. JMO and yes I can be wrong as rain.

Scouts seem behind the times when projecting backs at this point, IMO. Whether or not Josey can take the pounding of 300+ carries is irrelevant to me, because so few backs actually get that much usage now. It's both cheaper and more effective to have a platoon split, and the guys that have shown such capability in college (at least theoretically) by carrying a heavy load are almost always disappointments--Ingram, Richardson, Beanie Wells, and Mendenhall being some of the more recent examples, and I believe they are disappointments in some regard due to the miles they have already racked up.

I also disagree with the NFL.com scouting report in many regards. One knee injury does not mean he has serious durability concerns. Guys who are repeatedly injured have those concerns. It also said he didn't get extra yards. Josey consistently moved the pile this year, getting yards after contact that other Mizzou backs didn't. Sometimes, I think they just look at a guy's measureables and extrapolate those to perceived performance.

Mosbonian · 02-25-2014, 02:05 PM

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Scouts seem behind the times when projecting backs at this point, IMO. Whether or not Josey can take the pounding of 300+ carries is irrelevant to me, because so few backs actually get that much usage now. It's both cheaper and more effective to have a platoon split, and the guys that have shown such capability in college (at least theoretically) by carrying a heavy load are almost always disappointments--Ingram, Richardson, Beanie Wells, and Mendenhall being some of the more recent examples, and I believe they are disappointments in some regard due to the miles they have already racked up.

I also disagree with the NFL.com scouting report in many regards. One knee injury does not mean he has serious durability concerns. Guys who are repeatedly injured have those concerns. It also said he didn't get extra yards. Josey consistently moved the pile this year, getting yards after contact that other Mizzou backs didn't. Sometimes, I think they just look at a guy's measureables and extrapolate those to perceived performance.

I agree with you completely.....and if one knee injury is where they put a knock on a guy, then all they have to do is look at Jamaal Charles.

Pitt Gorilla · 02-25-2014, 04:43 PM

Now see why we backed off Rhaheed.

KChiefs1 · 02-25-2014, 06:41 PM

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273-lb Mizzou DE Kony Ealy completed the 3-cone drill today in 6.83 seconds. For perspective, that's .12 seconds faster than Sammy Watkins

Damn!

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-25-2014, 07:44 PM

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Now see why we backed off Rhaheed.

Urban Meyer paid his bail and extended him an offer.

Titty Meat · 03-01-2014, 06:30 PM

Pelini scoops a 4* D tackle for Blue Springs

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-01-2014, 06:43 PM

Losing the Davis twins to Nebraska is a ****ing shit sandwich.

duncan_idaho · 03-01-2014, 07:40 PM

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Losing the Davis twins to Nebraska is a ****ing shit sandwich.

Yes. Lot of time until signing day, but things turned quickly once Nebraska offered them.

Their uncle played there. Need to keep digging and try to overcome that. Nebraska falling on its face this year and Pelini getting fired probably wouldn't hurt, either.

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