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Old 06-04-2014, 06:58 PM   #31
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Name the last great sci-fi movie since Moon.

But yeah, with that genre I'm very particular and expect very intelligent, thought provoking stories.
I'd have to think about it, to be honest. I love sci-fi though, and not just serious sci-fi. Hell, I loved Ice Pirates! (boy, that didn't age well though) And to be honest, I actually prefer adventure/action scifi.

While I really liked Moon, I wouldn't put it on the same level as 2001: ASO. That was a rare film for any genre (IMO). That movie invoked a sense of wonder that Moon just couldn't touch. Moon was an awesome character study with a fantastic twist, but it didn't have that "awe" factor.

What got me about your comment was..."If its not great, its shit... theres no inbetween." My response fits your comment well. I've enjoyed a ton of sci-fi that's not great, but has still been a lot of fun.

I'm guessing you hated Europa Report, which was a serious/suspense sci-fi flick. I loved it. Really brought the viewer into life on a mulit-month space flight, and then totally changed gear in the last third. It wasn't great, but it was good and fun.

If you're going to judge all movies against 2001: ASO, I think you're going to be sadly disappointed 99% of the time.
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Old 06-04-2014, 07:11 PM   #32
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Name the last great sci-fi movie since Moon.

But yeah, with that genre I'm very particular and expect very intelligent, thought provoking stories.
Inception.

A ton better than Moon.
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Old 06-04-2014, 07:11 PM   #33
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I'd have to think about it, to be honest. I love sci-fi though, and not just serious sci-fi. Hell, I loved Ice Pirates! (boy, that didn't age well though) And to be honest, I actually prefer adventure/action scifi.

While I really liked Moon, I wouldn't put it on the same level as 2001: ASO. That was a rare film for any genre (IMO). That movie invoked a sense of wonder that Moon just couldn't touch. Moon was an awesome character study with a fantastic twist, but it didn't have that "awe" factor.

What got me about your comment was..."If its not great, its shit... theres no inbetween." My response fits your comment well. I've enjoyed a ton of sci-fi that's not great, but has still been a lot of fun.

I'm guessing you hated Europa Report, which was a serious/suspense sci-fi flick. I loved it. Really brought the viewer into life on a mulit-month space flight, and then totally changed gear in the last third. It wasn't great, but it was good and fun.

If you're going to judge all movies against 2001: ASO, I think you're going to be sadly disappointed 99% of the time.
You're right, Moon isn't on the same level as 2001... but it wasn't really trying to be, either.

But it definitely was a mature, thought provoking science fiction film... no lasers, no action hero's, no crazy monsters... just a great story well told, and that's what I long for these days, films in that genre that explore deep subjects and aren't aiming for 15 year old boys money or tying their flic in with the new sandwich at Burger King.

Europa Report?... I praised that one somewhere on here a while back after a rental, very high marks for spacecraft interior realism, calm, realisitic, steady astronaut behavior (hello, Prometheus) among other things.

But you gotta admit, the ending kinda sucked... what was the beast? just a bunch of lights under the water? There are a lot of good movies in every genre that fall victim to the "great lead up, disappointing ending" vein, that's what keeps good from great.

Anyway, as a person who feels strongly about space and its possibilities, I want more amazement and depth these days... its either great or it kinda sucks.
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Old 06-04-2014, 07:29 PM   #34
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I guess I just prefer average-good sci-fi over good-great of most other genres. Not that picky if I can suspend disbelief for an hour or so. I enjoyed Avatar, even if it was a mirror of Dances with Wolves. I've never seen Dances, so why would I care. If I'm too critical about movies in my favorite genre, I'll end up spending more time being disappointed by what I'm supposed to be enjoying. No thanks. Why bother at that point?

I absolutely hate reality TV. Hate is probably too weak a description. So I don't watch it. Ever. That said, I will watch the shit out the Mars One astronaut selection stuff and anything else they do.

Europa Report was a fantastic movie until the shift. It was still good after that, but it was just kinda weird. But the first hour of that movie was still awesome.

I haven't seen Inception yet. It's on the list.
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Old 06-04-2014, 07:31 PM   #35
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I just watched 2001 A Space Odyssey last night for about the umpteenth time... and that's pretty much the standard I'm going to judge any and all "serious" sci-fi movies by from here out.

Big shoes to fill, and the last great sci-fi movie was Moon... I hope the Wachowskis brought their A game for this one, the new Nolan film is promising as well, but I'm jaded about sci-fi more than any other genre.

If its not great, its shit... theres no inbetween.
Your thoughts on Gravity? I really liked it, but the story was thin. In terms of trying to actually put the viewer in space though, it's at the very top of the list IMO. Watching IMAX 3D with only a couple of other people in the theater most likely really helped to enhance my experience.
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Old 06-04-2014, 07:59 PM   #36
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I guess I just prefer average-good sci-fi over good-great of most other genres. Not that picky if I can suspend disbelief for an hour or so. I enjoyed Avatar, even if it was a mirror of Dances with Wolves. I've never seen Dances, so why would I care. If I'm too critical about movies in my favorite genre, I'll end up spending more time being disappointed by what I'm supposed to be enjoying. No thanks. Why bother at that point?

I absolutely hate reality TV. Hate is probably too weak a description. So I don't watch it. Ever. That said, I will watch the shit out the Mars One astronaut selection stuff and anything else they do.

Europa Report was a fantastic movie until the shift. It was still good after that, but it was just kinda weird. But the first hour of that movie was still awesome.

I haven't seen Inception yet. It's on the list.
Same here with Inception, I keep hearing the accolades and somehow just don't really care, it just sounds too far fetched even for me, I guess... I'll eventually get around to it one of these days I'm sure.

BCD, you're about 568th guy who's told me how great it is, it just seems too trippy and unreal.

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Your thoughts on Gravity? I really liked it, but the story was thin. In terms of trying to actually put the viewer in space though, it's at the very top of the list IMO. Watching IMAX 3D with only a couple of other people in the theater most likely really helped to enhance my experience.
Your first two thoughts sum it up for me pretty well... good but not great IMO, like Prometheus in that it has excellent visuals and a thin story, unlike it in that the acting is very good.

The scene where Clooney "comes back" in her dream was a pretty cool twist, I knew it was a dream to begin with, but it was still pretty trippy and the ISS getting hammered was certainly cool... that movie gets a solid B from me, nothing wrong with that, it just wasn't GREAT.

I think atleast some of the hype was Bullock + Clooney + great visuals + some exotic name like "Cuaron" and it just sucked the old Oscar voter fogies right in like a star powered black hole.
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