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Old 01-19-2017, 10:37 AM  
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Ok I hate to say it but is the NFL Rigged?

One of the worst reffed games I've ever seen and how is the ref punished? No he's rewarded with the Super Bowl job. How the hell can this be does the NFL not want us to win?


I know now I'm a conspiracy theorist or just angry chief fan but is anyone else upset???

The NFL basically screwed the chiefs and no one is mad!
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Old 01-09-2018, 06:59 PM   #61
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Marino must have done some salty shit to never win.
Or maybe Shula already got all Miami's?

Bubba Smith basically accused Shula of throwing SBIII in his book.

Maybe Shula's "carrot" was the back to back SBs + "perfect season" then ride off into the sunset as the "winningest coach of all time", and Marino 'fell' to him at 27...but we took Blackledge at 13?

"Hey Don, Baltimore sucks in the winter, but we are gonna put an expansion team in Miami. You like the beach."
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Old 01-09-2018, 07:00 PM   #62
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Old 01-09-2018, 07:05 PM   #63
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We've been through this before. Rigged? No. Influenced in a certain direction....Absolutely.
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Old 01-09-2018, 07:12 PM   #64
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If ratings slip, I'm starting to worry that the NFL will give the Broncos a CGI Peyton Manning next season. And you know that by the time Brady finally retires, he'll be replaced by a CGI Brady. Green Bay will get a CGI Rodgers like this:



And they'll give us some pixilated 8-bit Matt Cassel that looks like this:

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Old 01-09-2018, 07:19 PM   #65
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I think there's too much going on at one time during live play, too many players on the field participating, and esp now, too many cameras to flat out openly rig an NFL game. But refs certainly can call certain things certain ways to influence outcomes. In the NBA you had the Jordan rules. Now the NBA allows Lebron to take 5-6 steps when going to the basket. If anyone touches Brady a god damn flag is thrown. If Bernard Pollard didn't make Tom Brady tear his knee up in 2009, if that was any other QB on that day, you wouldn't see that "no low hits on the QB" rule, and we wouldn't have had ****ing shit stain Matt Cassel as a QB <-- GRRRRRR!!!! >:/

Having that said, the disclaimer that the NFL doesn't guarantee a fair outcome to the consumer definitely raises some eyebrows and suggests that games have been fixed before, or at least greatly influenced to lean a certain way w/ officiating. Now the NFL legally can get away with it if they want. Question I guess is, what's stopping them if it helps the league via TV ratings, esp now since the NFL ratings have dropped considerably? I mean I guess if they were outright caught doing it might be the final nail in the coffin for the NFL, but if they're able to get away with it legally and can pull it off, what's stopping them from the NY office telling the lead crew chief to call things a certain way? It's to be said that holding calls could be called on every play. And even informed fans that pay attention to the actual game have come to accept this. How many times have we seen plays get called back on a holding penalty that happens on the other side of the field 20 yards or so away and has nothing to do w/ said outcome of the play itself?

I mean does anyone really know what the NY office says to the refs reviewing replays under the tent? We would think the game is called in a fair manner, but do we really know for sure?

And we know that goes on in the NBA, or has in the past. I'm sure it's gone on in MLB too where 90% of the game is officiated off of judgement calls (balls vs strikes).

The NFL has a big financial interest to have the Pats and Steelers go as far as possible in the postseason because of their mass national following, or at least until they meet. How many times have we seen BS calls go their way in critical situations?
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Old 01-09-2018, 07:24 PM   #66
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People get too resistant to words like FIXED or THROWN, as far as game results.

They are not either, so much as they are.. like stated a year ago... PUSHED.

Teams do have a chance to fight back and stick it to the opponent and refs/League.

Just a very hard thing to accomplish, in today's League of parity.
(especially the postseason, where the better teams face the better teams)
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Old 01-09-2018, 07:30 PM   #67
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We've been through this before. Rigged? No. Influenced in a certain direction....Absolutely.
Yep. Look at the games the Patriots lose in the playoffs. They get blown out and it's taken out of the refs' hands. If it's close the refs will make sure they win
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Old 01-09-2018, 07:40 PM   #68
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Yep. Look at the games the Patriots lose in the playoffs. They get blown out and it's taken out of the refs' hands. If it's close the refs will make sure they win


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Old 01-09-2018, 07:55 PM   #69
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From what I have seen with my own eyes, especially in the past several years, I don't think there is any reason to believe that most of the games aren't, at the very least, influenced in one direction or another. To me, there are two main reasons for this.

1) Gambling. I don't think its any secret that the mafia was heavily involved in illegal gambling back in the early days of the NFL's rise to prominence as a major national sport, or that many of the original team owners were involved in that in one way or another. There is stuff about this all over the place, dating back to the 80s at least if you do a little research. One person who has done a lot of work on this very subject is a guy named Dan Moldea. He has authored some books about it and has done many interviews. Its interesting stuff.

2) Brand/Player recognition. The NFL has a few cash cow franchises and players that I'm sure they like to see do well as often as possible. This can also be tied in with TV ratings. There are always going to be the hardcore, loyal fans. But a lot of the revenue comes from casual, bandwagon fans that buy the merchandise of whatever team is winning and/or whatever player is popular, and some teams/players are just more marketable than others.

We are probably looking at ANOTHER Brady/Big Ben AFCCG. In the last 15 years or so, how many AFCCG have there been where at least one of either Brady, Manning, or Ben wasn't in it? You think the NFL isn't salivating at the chance for one or two more of these? A changing of the guard is on the way, but the NFL is gonna try to do whats good for them now, especially because of the declining ratings.

I mean, for ****s sake, they literally INVENTED A NEW RULE to make sure the Patriots beat the Raiders in 2001, right after 9/11. I just can't see this being coincidence.

When Manning got his with Denver and got to ride off into the sunset, it looked like the Panthers were not even trying at times during that game.
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Old 01-09-2018, 07:58 PM   #70
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If some hacker really wanted to make a stink. Hack the NFL computers. There has to be something in them to support these theories.
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Old 01-09-2018, 08:01 PM   #71
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We've been through this before. Rigged? No. Influenced in a certain direction....Absolutely.
There's no difference between the two.
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Old 01-09-2018, 08:05 PM   #72
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From what I have seen with my own eyes, especially in the past several years, I don't think there is any reason to believe that most of the games aren't, at the very least, influenced in one direction or another. To me, there are two main reasons for this.

1) Gambling. I don't think its any secret that the mafia was heavily involved in illegal gambling back in the early days of the NFL's rise to prominence as a major national sport, or that many of the original team owners were involved in that in one way or another. There is stuff about this all over the place, dating back to the 80s at least if you do a little research. One person who has done a lot of work on this very subject is a guy named Dan Moldea. He has authored some books about it and has done many interviews. Its interesting stuff.
Why would you think this is relevant whatsoever to today? Because something might have happened 100 years ago?

The whole gambling industry of LV was built on the mob, and a lot more recently. Now, its a few big corporations. The past is irrelevant.
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The NFL didn't make the ball back to Mariotta. Or Jones and Kelce go out. Or our 3rd string TE drop a huge 3rd down pass. Or about 10 plays where a few inches the other way and we win the game (fumble at the end, ball just out of Wilson's reach).

And we've all see this playoff game 10 times (well the old-timers anyway).

The universe is freaking rigged against the Chiefs in the playoffs. Which is much much worse.
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