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Old 01-19-2017, 10:37 AM  
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Ok I hate to say it but is the NFL Rigged?

One of the worst reffed games I've ever seen and how is the ref punished? No he's rewarded with the Super Bowl job. How the hell can this be does the NFL not want us to win?


I know now I'm a conspiracy theorist or just angry chief fan but is anyone else upset???

The NFL basically screwed the chiefs and no one is mad!
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Old 01-10-2018, 12:59 AM   #91
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The bottom line is that the frequency of phantom calls and ignored fouls is way out of balance. The tighter you are calling a game the more you expect to see phantom calls. If you are calling a game loose you expect to see more ignored fouls. Instead we are seeing lots of phantom calls and ignored fouls in the same game suggesting the refs are manipulating the game. We need pure transparency of officiating. All 22 reviews of each play needs to be provided to the public showing correct calls, bad calls, and calls missed. At the the end of the report it should show summary statistics of the direction bias toward one team or another and whether it was within statistical norms. Refs that consistently show bias to a particular team should be fired. I've lost faith in the game and the only way to restore it will be radical transparency.
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Old 01-10-2018, 01:04 AM   #92
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I don't think it was rigged for the outcome but I do believe they wanted a close game and the Tripplet made that possible with bad calls.
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Old 01-10-2018, 01:09 AM   #93
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OMG and I heard George Halas once played poker. WTF does that have to with anything? Or anything now?
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By all means...keep going. It's fascinating...
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Old 01-10-2018, 01:24 AM   #94
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The NFL didn't make the ball back to Mariotta. Or Jones and Kelce go out. Or our 3rd string TE drop a huge 3rd down pass. Or about 10 plays where a few inches the other way and we win the game (fumble at the end, ball just out of Wilson's reach).

And we've all see this playoff game 10 times (well the old-timers anyway).

The universe is freaking rigged against the Chiefs in the playoffs. Which is much much worse.
^^^^ This...

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing expecting different results. All except the universe being against the Chiefs. The Universe doesn't care about our insignificant football team.

There might be something to be said about teams targeting certain players for their benefit, chipping at a DL's knee or coming in low at a player already on the way down.

I've seen plays where the referee is ready to throw a flag and yet pulls his hand away when a big play is made. They are human, the NFL is big business and they are employed by that business. I don't think they are out to screw the Chiefs intentionally, the Chiefs just aren't seen as very exciting. The defense isn't know for getting a lot of sacks so the referees aren't going to call much holding.

I am hoping Mahomes makes a difference. Even if he throws a ton of interceptions his first year, I want the Chiefs go let him go down swinging. Something they never let Blackledge do.
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Old 01-10-2018, 01:38 AM   #95
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That's actually where I would lean in this game, too. It was just badly, badly botched. Either that, or an individual official was on the take without the league's knowledge, like we saw in the NBA.

I do think that the league pushes story lines, though, and that can affect outcomes. It can't control them, but it can affect them. I also suspect there are orders to not let games get out of hand, and I think there's a natural human bias to give calls to bigger stars that get ignored with regular players.

That said, some things are just too convenient. Allowing Elway and Manning to have trophies in their last year is suspicious, particularly Manning since he was so bad by that point, and the fact that Super Bowls keep getting closer and "more exciting" (quotes added for sarcasm) really gives me pause. Check out the average winning margin of Super Bowls over time (see enclosed graph).

Now, here's what happened. (Note that I'm using 9 year smoothed averages to get the noise out of the data.) Look at the chart and follow along, because it's really interesting.

In the first ten years of the Super Bowl, the winning margin was around 12 or 13 points. This was an era of defense, so you'd expect margins to be lower in this era compared to the modern era. Teams didn't score as much, so the margins of victory will be smaller. The downward trend in the first dozen Super Bowls is a pattern, but may be anomalous: the two big Green Bay victories in SB 1 and 2 throw up the average in the early years because I can't do a full moving average of them.

So then the NFL liberalizes passing rules, and offenses suddenly take hold. There'll always be a team that's the best team in the league, and the offensive rules gave them a bigger margin of victory in this era. As certain teams figured out how to optimize offense faster than others, the scoring differential got bigger and bigger from SB 13 through about SB 19.

The differential stabilized around SB 20, but it stabilized at a big number. In an offensive era, the best team was often going to blow out other teams. The differential dipped about through SB 30, but I attribute this more to the 49ers slowing down than any systemic issues. If you're old enough to remember this era, you remember jokes and complaints about how boring the Super Bowls were, since one team always blew out the other.

But now look at SB 31 on. We've had a very steady and strong decline in point differential, even while offenses are given more and more advantages. Given the steady diet of point-producing rules changes, one would expect the same type of jump in margin of victory that we saw back in the 1970s when offenses were suddenly awarded advantages.

But we didn't. Instead, we're seeing lower and lower margins of victory; in other words, closer and "more exciting" games. If not for the Seahawks shellacking the Broncos recently, the pattern would be even more pronounced.

What's causing this? It's the opposite of the trend you'd expect given the changes in passing rules.

One can come up with two theories:

1. If you believe the NFL story line, we've got more parity and teams are more evenly matched, even in the Super Bowl where presumably you might have an outlier team each year.

2. The NFL is intentionally working to keep big games close and "exciting". It's not lost on me that last year was the first overtime Super Bowl. Yay for ratings!

So if you look at when this trend started, it was basically 1997. And what happened in 1997? We had the first ratings-oriented farewell Super Bowl that was awarded to John Elway.

I therefore conclude that 1997 was the first year that the NFL began manipulating games for ratings.
Do you know how much they made by shutting off the lights in the SF/Ravens game?

If someone is being pragmatic...that singular instance should tell you everything you need to know. They will do whatever they can to make as much money as possible....and dont give two ****s about how overt it is.

BTW...great post. The only way to get these cheating/polluted ****s out of the equation is to raise awareness...and fans to boycott financially.

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Old 01-10-2018, 06:55 AM   #96
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Do you know how much they made by shutting off the lights in the SF/Ravens game?

If someone is being pragmatic...that singular instance should tell you everything you need to know. They will do whatever they can to make as much money as possible....and dont give two ****s about how overt it is.

BTW...great post. The only way to get these cheating/polluted ****s out of the equation is to raise awareness...and fans to boycott financially.
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Old 01-10-2018, 07:25 AM   #97
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Yep. Look at the games the Patriots lose in the playoffs. They get blown out and it's taken out of the refs' hands. If it's close the refs will make sure they win

You apparently didn't watch either Super Bowl involving the Patriots and Giants, nor the 2015 AFCCG against the Broncos, or the ridiculous come-from-behind win of the Colts in the AFCCG in 2006.

But other than those two Super Bowl games and two AFC championship games, you're definitely right!!


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The officiating in our have was incompetence, not a conspiracy. Why would the league want the Titans to advance ahead of us. We are a much more attractive team with Kelce, Hill, and Hunt. The Titans are probably the least appealing team in the playoffs. Not too mention a KC/NE have is much more marketable than NE/TEN

NFL is playing chess, not checkers. Let the Chiefs advance and there is a slight chance you lose NE/PGH in the conference finals. Thatís the marketing angle they are more concerned about. And if the Chiefs somehow sneaked into the big one? Forget it. Not on their agenda at all.



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One can come up with two theories:

1. If you believe the NFL story line, we've got more parity and teams are more evenly matched, even in the Super Bowl where presumably you might have an outlier team each year.

2. The NFL is intentionally working to keep big games close and "exciting". It's not lost on me that last year was the first overtime Super Bowl. Yay for ratings!

So if you look at when this trend started, it was basically 1997. And what happened in 1997? We had the first ratings-oriented farewell Super Bowl that was awarded to John Elway.

I therefore conclude that 1997 was the first year that the NFL began manipulating games for ratings.

I think you have a correlation/causation problem. Instead of your conspiracy theories, how about the advent of true free agency in the NFL in 1992, and a few years to figure out how to employ the system effectively, preventing/eliminating the existence and continuation of SUPERteams like we saw prior to that.

As a result, the talent gap among the various teams now is typically razor thin. Certainly thinner among the top, whatever, 10 teams than it used to be. As a result, superiority at the most critical position (QB) often decides the issue.

Even the Patriots, the most dominant team of the new millenium, aren't doing it the way the old teams did it. The turnover on the team is massive, but Brady and Belichick keeps the ship on course. That isn't how the old Steelers, Niners, Giants, Redskins, Cowboys, etc. were winning championships.
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That's actually where I would lean in this game, too. It was just badly, badly botched. Either that, or an individual official was on the take without the league's knowledge, like we saw in the NBA.

I do think that the league pushes story lines, though, and that can affect outcomes. It can't control them, but it can affect them. I also suspect there are orders to not let games get out of hand, and I think there's a natural human bias to give calls to bigger stars that get ignored with regular players.

That said, some things are just too convenient. Allowing Elway and Manning to have trophies in their last year is suspicious, particularly Manning since he was so bad by that point, and the fact that Super Bowls keep getting closer and "more exciting" (quotes added for sarcasm) really gives me pause. Check out the average winning margin of Super Bowls over time (see enclosed graph).

Now, here's what happened. (Note that I'm using 9 year smoothed averages to get the noise out of the data.) Look at the chart and follow along, because it's really interesting.

In the first ten years of the Super Bowl, the winning margin was around 12 or 13 points. This was an era of defense, so you'd expect margins to be lower in this era compared to the modern era. Teams didn't score as much, so the margins of victory will be smaller. The downward trend in the first dozen Super Bowls is a pattern, but may be anomalous: the two big Green Bay victories in SB 1 and 2 throw up the average in the early years because I can't do a full moving average of them.

So then the NFL liberalizes passing rules, and offenses suddenly take hold. There'll always be a team that's the best team in the league, and the offensive rules gave them a bigger margin of victory in this era. As certain teams figured out how to optimize offense faster than others, the scoring differential got bigger and bigger from SB 13 through about SB 19.

The differential stabilized around SB 20, but it stabilized at a big number. In an offensive era, the best team was often going to blow out other teams. The differential dipped about through SB 30, but I attribute this more to the 49ers slowing down than any systemic issues. If you're old enough to remember this era, you remember jokes and complaints about how boring the Super Bowls were, since one team always blew out the other.

But now look at SB 31 on. We've had a very steady and strong decline in point differential, even while offenses are given more and more advantages. Given the steady diet of point-producing rules changes, one would expect the same type of jump in margin of victory that we saw back in the 1970s when offenses were suddenly awarded advantages.

But we didn't. Instead, we're seeing lower and lower margins of victory; in other words, closer and "more exciting" games. If not for the Seahawks shellacking the Broncos recently, the pattern would be even more pronounced.

What's causing this? It's the opposite of the trend you'd expect given the changes in passing rules.

One can come up with two theories:

1. If you believe the NFL story line, we've got more parity and teams are more evenly matched, even in the Super Bowl where presumably you might have an outlier team each year.

2. The NFL is intentionally working to keep big games close and "exciting". It's not lost on me that last year was the first overtime Super Bowl. Yay for ratings!

So if you look at when this trend started, it was basically 1997. And what happened in 1997? We had the first ratings-oriented farewell Super Bowl that was awarded to John Elway.

I therefore conclude that 1997 was the first year that the NFL began manipulating games for ratings.
And they wonder why ratings are down

I used to watch every NFL game I could, real shitfests, too, like Buddy Ryan's Cardinals vs Ray Rhodes' Eagles, ya know?


Now?

I watch the Chiefs and maybe some Redzone on Sundays. Can't be bothered with MNF or TNF unless the Chiefs are on, and now that's fading...even with Mahomes. The way he throws is breathtaking, but it doesn't matter, because the games are obviously manipulated. It's a TV show. Best show on TV...but I don't much care for contrived, manufactured drama.

So, if they want to get the REAL football fans back, they'll quit insulting our intelligence and abusing our loyalty with this watered down, manipulated bullshit.
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And they wonder why ratings are down

I used to watch every NFL game I could, real shitfests, too, like Buddy Ryan's Cardinals vs Ray Rhodes' Eagles, ya know?


Now?

I watch the Chiefs and maybe some Redzone on Sundays. Can't be bothered with MNF or TNF unless the Chiefs are on, and now that's fading...even with Mahomes. The way he throws is breathtaking, but it doesn't matter, because the games are obviously manipulated. It's a TV show. Best show on TV...but I don't much care for contrived, manufactured drama.

So, if they want to get the REAL football fans back, they'll quit insulting our intelligence and abusing our loyalty with this watered down, manipulated bullshit.
Ray Rhodes coached the Eagles from 1995-1998. I'm sure at the time you had internet capabilities similar to what you currently have, as well as DirectTV or cable offering about 1,000 channels of whatever else in the world you could possibly want to watch, plus Netflix or other source for demand movies and the like?

The NFL ratings are primarily down due to the same changing demographics and entertainment options overload that have driven down ratings across all television. Not that other factors (national anthem issue or whatever) are a ZERO issue. They could be having an impact.

But the NFL still dominates compares to every other entertainment product out there. Ratings are only down compared to their own absurdly high standards of prior years.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/26/medi...rks/index.html

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Through week seven, the NFL is down 5% overall from the same point last year. That's a troubling drop for the biggest ratings powerhouse on TV, but it seems less dire when you consider that the four major networks are down an average 8% in prime time.

NBC is down 4%, CBS is down 6%, ABC is down 11%, and Fox's prime time viewership dropped 20% through the first month of the new TV season, according to Nielsen data. And those numbers are down despite the inclusion of live sporting events, which usually bring in big audiences.

The NFL's sluggish viewership may be less a symptom of the league's problems and more about what's happening in the TV environment overall. The landscape has become incredibly fragmented, thanks to a flood of programming and competition from streaming services and from the internet, not to mention a 24-hour news cycle that comes with a breathtaking amount of content. Television, Netflix, Hulu and Amazon are all vying for the same eyeballs, and there are no signs that the deluge of programming will ebb any time soon.

The numbers for network TV are also partially tied to the NFL's struggles, since CBS and NBC both broadcast games in prime time on Sunday and on Thursday nights.

"Regardless of the declines, the NFL is still by far the highest rated sport on TV and often the most watched broadcast on TV," said Brian Hughes, a senior vice president at Magna, which monitors audience trends. "Last year when the ratings were down, it seemed like a shock. This year looks to be a part of a trend rather than a big disruption."
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Old 01-10-2018, 08:40 AM   #103
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I am, more and more, thinking that games are steered in order to keep the score closer. I don't know if I'd go so far as to say that the refs are instructed to try to help team A win over team B, but certainly the NFL makes more money with more eyeballs, and nobody (except for diehard fans) will keep the channel on a blowout.

I also think that perhaps certain teams that are more "sexy" are pushed towards winning more. Many more people would watch a Patriot/Packer SB than a Titans/Carolina one.


But... one thing keeps coming back to me. If this were truly the case, if even one ref on each crew was instructed to "steer" the game, it almost certainly would have come out by now. Consider how many hundreds of people would need to be involved. At some point, someone somewhere would talk.

Whether it's a ref getting drunk and confiding to his wife--who later reveals it after their divorce, or something else, at some point somebody would let the cat out of the bag.

That it hasn't happened yet suggests to me that maybe we're just seeing horribly incompetent refs. And maybe refs who are individually on the take (as opposed to being part of a league-wide conspiracy to steer games towards a certain result).

I don't know. 20 years ago I would have laughed and said no way anything is rigged. Now... I wouldn't be surprised to find out that it is, but at the same time I have a hard time believing that nobody would have spilled the beans yet.
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I think you have a correlation/causation problem. Instead of your conspiracy theories, how about the advent of true free agency in the NFL in 1992, and a few years to figure out how to employ the system effectively, preventing/eliminating the existence and continuation of SUPERteams like we saw prior to that.

As a result, the talent gap among the various teams now is typically razor thin. Certainly thinner among the top, whatever, 10 teams than it used to be. As a result, superiority at the most critical position (QB) often decides the issue.

Even the Patriots, the most dominant team of the new millenium, aren't doing it the way the old teams did it. The turnover on the team is massive, but Brady and Belichick keeps the ship on course. That isn't how the old Steelers, Niners, Giants, Redskins, Cowboys, etc. were winning championships.
Yeah, the teams of the early 90s and before built their teams by stockpiling greatness... and you just can't do that anymore. I like the fact that they employed the rookie pay system, I think that was on the verge of crushing the competitiveness.

It's still all about the badass elite QB though, always has been, you could just hoard more greatness decades ago.

And, all this "it's rigged" talk is kind of funny. Think about the franchises that continue to be consistently relevant and compare them to the ownership visions of the other teams... Lions, Browns, Jaguars, Jets, Chiefs, Bengals, Chargers... there's a dozen teams out there that just aren't managed or set up like the 5-6 franchises that are consistently battling for greatness.

The NFL is really ok with a dozen fan bases just never really having a shot to win it or ever being on TV in big games. Really? I think there are a number of crappy and apathetic ownership groups out there and that's the problem more than anything.

How long have KC fans complained about the Hunts, GMs or coaches - hell you flew banners to fix things. But, the league has it rigged, yeah? Fans of teams like the Lions, Browns, Jets, Bengals... they're all institutionalized at this point.
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