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Old 02-11-2018, 09:51 AM  
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Would you trade Justin houston and our 2nd

To the Browns for #4. Houstons cap savings would be 20 mil.
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Old 02-12-2018, 09:38 AM   #76
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The Browns wouldn't do that.
Dorsey would.

I hope to God we wouldn't...
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Old 02-12-2018, 09:42 AM   #77
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Dorsey would.

I hope to God we wouldn't...
That would be outright theft on the Chiefs part. Houston isn't an impact guy anymore.
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Old 02-12-2018, 09:46 AM   #78
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I say one more year, let him mentor a young draft pass rusher for a year and see the chemistry between the two. Without Tamba and Houston this defense doesn't have anyone to get to the QB.
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Old 02-12-2018, 09:52 AM   #79
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That would be outright theft on the Chiefs part. Houston isn't an impact guy anymore.
We had so many injuries and green players in our secondary that even Cutler and the QB of the week for the Jets put up over 250 passing yards on us.
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Old 02-12-2018, 10:06 AM   #80
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We need to go back to a more aggressive pass rushing defense that highlights Houston's skill set. Maybe if we can improve the secondary we can get our pass rush back
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Old 02-12-2018, 10:08 AM   #81
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Dorsey would.

I hope to God we wouldn't...
No he wouldn't. If he wants a pass rusher he will take Chubb at 1.
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Old 02-12-2018, 11:37 AM   #82
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Old 02-12-2018, 12:02 PM   #83
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We need to go back to a more aggressive pass rushing defense that highlights Houston's skill set. Maybe if we can improve the secondary we can get our pass rush back
A more aggressive pass rushing defense WOULD improve the secondary. Dropping Houston into pass coverage is not how you help the pass defense. I'm almost of the mind that if they are going to continue to misuse him they might as well trade him. Not really, but it is frustrating to watch.
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Old 02-12-2018, 03:54 PM   #84
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A more aggressive pass rushing defense WOULD improve the secondary. Dropping Houston into pass coverage is not how you help the pass defense. I'm almost of the mind that if they are going to continue to misuse him they might as well trade him. Not really, but it is frustrating to watch.
I understand this; however, I think the reason WHY it was happening was out of trying to band-aid a gaping wound.

I think if we can cover better in the secondary we'll see less of Houston in coverage.
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Old 02-12-2018, 04:21 PM   #85
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A more aggressive pass rushing defense WOULD improve the secondary. Dropping Houston into pass coverage is not how you help the pass defense. I'm almost of the mind that if they are going to continue to misuse him they might as well trade him. Not really, but it is frustrating to watch.
Hali should be gone and Houston should be moved up to the line of scrimmage to replace Hali. Next year Houston should be in the backfield on virtually every play.

I say 'should' because we all know that Sutton is still here. Houston might play cornerback next year with Sutton making the calls.

We still need another pass rusher, if not 2 more.
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Old 02-12-2018, 05:03 PM   #86
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I understand this; however, I think the reason WHY it was happening was out of trying to band-aid a gaping wound.



I think if we can cover better in the secondary we'll see less of Houston in coverage.


Again, if you put pressure on the QB the secondary gets the help it needs. Taking your best pass rusher out of the pass rushing game and putting him into pass coverage is not a band-aid, itís stupidity.
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Old 02-12-2018, 06:07 PM   #87
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I would in a second...Houston isn't near the player he was and isn't worth his contract to be dropped into coverage because he doesn't have his rush burst anymore. Good teams know when to move on from stars and have been stars.
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Old 02-12-2018, 07:51 PM   #89
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I really hope Justin Houston isn't declining. Hard to judge his play last sseason.

His sacks were WAY down. The pressure overall he put on opposing QB's seemed to drop off across the board, but he didn't really have any help from anywhere else. Chiefs were one of the worst defenses in the NFL at applying pressure to the QB.

It'd be nice for him to get back to that dominating force he once was, I'm just afraid those days may be gone. Considering what he's making vs his "current" production it'd make sense to get away from his contract.

Right now he's making $$$ based on what he did in 2014 where had more sacks in that season alone than he's had collectively since then. He's been hurt, but you can't be productive when you're not on the field. He just turned 29, which means he probably has about 2-3yrs left of productive years, assuming last year's dropoff was just a fluke. If it's a sign of things to come, Chiefs are in a bit of trouble.
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