Jason Smith to Visit KC - Page 5

Archie Bunker · 03-19-2009, 10:38 AM

http://stl.scout.com/a.z?s=124&p=9&c...=3934900&fhn=1

Since the Scouting Combine, a source confirmed with Scout.com that Smith has met or will meet with four of the teams selecting in the top-five. Smith flew to Detroit to visit with the Lions on March 9th, and had private workouts with the St. Louis Rams on March 12th and the Cleveland Browns on March 17th. He’s also expected to visit the Kansas City Chiefs during the first week of April.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-23-2009, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

For the long run I'd take Matthews before Cushing or Rey.

I'm sure you would.

Draft a guy with a Top 20 pick who's started 9 games in 5 years, who's name has more importance than his play on the field.

That sounds like what I know of you.

Matthews is Scott Fujita. A smart football player with limited athletic ability. He'll be a solid football player (barring injury) but he's not going to be a game changer.

He's a mid-third round pick at best but he'll go much higher due to name recognition.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-23-2009, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Dane, who is the can't miss right tackle you would take in the 3rd round? 4th round? 5th round?

Well, last year it was Carl Nicks in the 5th. This year it's probably Urbick, though there are others.

**Tribal Warfare** · 03-23-2009, 02:19 PM

For me on the Defensive side it looks like KC's draft board could be targeting Brown, Cushing, or Barwin for a str round pick of course the last two involve a trade down, and hopefully Brown could be had on a trade down too.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-23-2009, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

For me on the Defensive side it looks like KC's draft board could be targeting Brown, Cushing, or Barwin for a str round pick of course the last two involve a trade down, and hopefully Brown could be had on a trade down too.

I guess I'm the only one but I fail to see why the Chiefs would be targeting defensive players in the 2009 draft when they just traded for a QB who would currently be lining up behind the worst offensive line in the NFL. Especially when the 2009 NFL draft is loaded with offensive lineman.

Now is the time for the offense. 2010 is the time for defense.

**Tribal Warfare** · 03-23-2009, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I guess I'm the only one but I fail to see why the Chiefs would be targeting defensive players in the 2009 draft when they just traded for a QB who would currently be lining up behind the worst offensive line in the NFL. Especially when the 2009 NFL draft is loaded with offensive lineman.

Now is the time for the offense. 2010 is the time for defense.

This is a deep year at OL especially at the OG andd Center spots with an eventual tradedown to get the 2nd round pick back KC is back in business.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-23-2009, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

This is a deep year at OL especially at the OG andd Center spots with an eventual tradedown to get the 2nd round pick back KC is back in business.

Right but since you need three new starters, if you're going to load up your offensive line, you're looking at spending the 2nd, 3rd and either 4th or 5th pick on offensive lineman. That really doesn't leave room for any impact defensive players.

So basically what I'm saying is that while the Chiefs should absolutely do their homework on each and every interesting player, they shouldn't be "targeting" defense.

aturnis · 03-23-2009, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bdeg

Schwartz is a stats guy, and the stats say go QB if you think he's the guy.

If he's a stats guy, he'd probably be more likely to go LT wouldn't you think? The stats do say that a LT taken high is more likely to turn out well, that a QB taken high. I think with QB it's 50/50, and LT is probably a LOT better than that.

aturnis · 03-23-2009, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

We have a speed guy in Bradley and we don't really need a speed guy with a QB like Cassel and an offense that is going to rely on short-medium passes. Also Crabtree is fast on the field, I could care less about how fast he is on the track. If the Chiefs start entering track meets then yeah lets grab Maclin and hope he stays healthy. Also, I'm not going to pretend to have watched a lot of his games, but the few I did watch he got hurt in or was already hurt.

Kind of ****ing reeruned that you're not willing to take Maclin(obviously not at #3 but if we traded down) b/c you think he's injury prone(even though he didn't miss too much playing time) yet you're willing to call Bradley "our speed guy" when he was injured most of the season he spent playing for us. That's just idiotic.

Also, Crabtree is NOT a better fit for KC, we do already have a slow receiver in Bowe. We don't need a slow receiver who is also small to compliment him. The speed guy WOULD be ideal. Speed guys don't just get open down field, fast guys like Welker, get open underneath, and make big yards after the catch.

That said...I LOVE DHB.

bdeg · 03-23-2009, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

If he's a stats guy, he'd probably be more likely to go LT wouldn't you think? The stats do say that a LT taken high is more likely to turn out well, that a QB taken high. I think with QB it's 50/50, and LT is probably a LOT better than that.

LT has a better chance of working out to be a good player, but a good QB is statistically worth more than a good LT.

bdeg · 03-23-2009, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

That said...I LOVE DHB.

You love what he's shown, or what he could be?

Very high ceiling, very high bust factor.

**Tribal Warfare** · 03-23-2009, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Right but since you need three new starters, if you're going to load up your offensive line, you're looking at spending the 2nd, 3rd and either 4th or 5th pick on offensive lineman. That really doesn't leave room for any impact defensive players.

So basically what I'm saying is that while the Chiefs should absolutely do their homework on each and every interesting player, they shouldn't be "targeting" defense.

Draft where the talent is slotted, If KC can get a solid OL out of this draft then I'm satisfied. If KC gets one elite level pass rusher too then I'm ****ing amped.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-23-2009, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Draft where the talent is slotted, If KC can get a solid OL out of this draft then I'm satisfied. If KC gets one elite level pass rusher too then I'm ****ing amped.

I would be as well. I just don't think that one exists. That of course is my decision based on the knowledge that we have today. I just don't see a consistent 10 sack plus per year player at this time.

I know that others disagree.

aturnis · 03-23-2009, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I would be as well. I just don't think that one exists. That of course is my decision based on the knowledge that we have today. I just don't see a consistent 10 sack plus per year player at this time.

I know that others disagree.

I would definitely agree. No elite pass rushers this year. I'd take Brown with a mid first.

BigChiefFan · 03-24-2009, 09:34 PM

There is an elite pass-rusher in the draft, when you consider his position is a DT.

Cornstock · 03-24-2009, 11:41 PM

I really wish we still had a second round pick. Then we could get our RT and we would take something on defense at 3. Barring some pioli magic we will have to settle for a 3rd round RT. As deep as this class is at OL there is still a good chance we can get an opening day starter at RT in the 3rd IMO.

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Cornstock Veteran Join Date: Oct 2008 Casino cash: $9986835	I really wish we still had a second round pick. Then we could get our RT and we would take something on defense at 3. Barring some pioli magic we will have to settle for a 3rd round RT. As deep as this class is at OL there is still a good chance we can get an opening day starter at RT in the 3rd IMO.
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