Chiefs Late night bullshit: trade the last 10 first rounders.

Direckshun · 04-18-2011, 10:23 PM

It doesn't have to be a good thread. It's a football thread.

2001 (traded to St. Louis for QB Trent Green)
2002 DT Ryan Sims, North Carolina
2003 RB Larry Johnson, Penn State
2004 (traded to Detroit for a 2nd and a 4th, which translated to DT Junior Siavii and WR Sammie Parker)
2005 LB Derrick Johnson, Texas
2006 DE/OLB Tamba Hali, Penn State
2007 WR Dwayne Bowe, LSU
2008 DE/DT Glenn Dorsey, LSU
2009 DE Tyson Jackson, LSU
2010 SS Eric Berry, Tennessee

Direckshun · 04-18-2011, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

2001 (traded to St. Louis for QB Trent Green) A
2002 DT Ryan Sims, North Carolina F
2003 RB Larry Johnson, Penn State B
2004 (traded to Detroit for a 2nd and a 4th, which translated to DT Junior Siavii and WR Sammie Parker) F
2005 LB Derrick Johnson, Texas B
2006 DE/OLB Tamba Hali, Penn State A
2007 WR Dwayne Bowe, LSU A
2008 DE/DT Glenn Dorsey, LSU B
2009 DE Tyson Jackson, LSU D
2010 SS Eric Berry, Tennessee B

Go Chiefs.

Dante84 · 04-18-2011, 10:27 PM

Trade....?

gggggggrade?

**Buck** · 04-18-2011, 10:27 PM

I don't know who you could have had instead of Larry Johnson (Polamalu?), but I'd give that one an A.

He didn't turn into a complete failure for some time. It was a nice pick.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-18-2011, 10:39 PM

Sims did a lot more in his second year than Jackson did. He also excelled at being just a "guy", and he did it at a later pick than Jackson did, and he was thought to be worthy of the pick, not hailed as a universal reach.

34 tackles, 3 sacks, 1 FF, and 1 INT

Jackson in 2010:

31 tackles, 1 sack, 0 FF, 0 INT

Jackson hasn't just been bad, he's been bad relative to Ryan Sims.

**SAUTO** · 04-18-2011, 10:40 PM

Didn't jackson miss some games due to injury?
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'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-18-2011, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

It doesn't have to be a good thread. It's a football thread.

2001 (traded to St. Louis for QB Trent Green) B-
2002 DT Ryan Sims, North Carolina F
2003 RB Larry Johnson, Penn State B+
2004 (traded to Detroit for a 2nd and a 4th, which translated to DT Junior Siavii and WR Sammie Parker) F
2005 LB Derrick Johnson, Texas B-
2006 DE/OLB Tamba Hali, Penn State A-
2007 WR Dwayne Bowe, LSU A-
2008 DE/DT Glenn Dorsey, LSU B-
2009 DE Tyson Jackson, LSU F-
2010 SS Eric Berry, Tennessee A

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**J Diddy** · 04-18-2011, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Sims did a lot more in his second year than Jackson did. He also excelled at being just a "guy", and he did it at a later pick than Jackson did, and he was thought to be worthy of the pick, not hailed as a universal reach.

34 tackles, 3 sacks, 1 FF, and 1 INT

Jackson in 2010:

31 tackles, 1 sack, 0 FF, 0 INT

Jackson hasn't just been bad, he's been bad relative to Ryan Sims.

I would agree except for one thing. Sims played in a 4-3, jackson 3-4

**SAUTO** · 04-18-2011, 10:43 PM

Yep hamas. Sims played 16 games in year two.

Jackson played in 12 .
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'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-18-2011, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Didn't jackson miss some games due to injury?
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I actually beautified TJ's stats a little. He had 19 solo tackles and 12 assists.
Sims had 34 solos and 4 assists.

**pr_capone** · 04-18-2011, 10:44 PM

Trade:

2001 (traded to St. Louis for QB Trent Green) - Undo trade and draft DE Marcus Stroud
2002 DT Ryan Sims, North Carolina - Undo trade with Dallas and draft DT John Henderson
2003 RB Larry Johnson, Penn State - Undo trade with Pitt and draft S Troy Polamalu
2004 (traded to Detroit for a 2nd and a 4th, which translated to DT Junior Siavii and WR Sammie Parker) - Undo trade and draft OT Chris Snee
2005 LB Derrick Johnson, Texas - Draft Aaron Rogers
2006 DE/OLB Tamba Hali, Penn State - Cannot be improved on.
2007 WR Dwayne Bowe, LSU - Cannot be improved on
2008 DE/DT Glenn Dorsey, LSU - Draft Jerod Mayo
2009 DE Tyson Jackson, LSU - Draft Michael Crabtree
2010 SS Eric Berry, Tennessee - Cannot be improved on

Grade:

2001 (traded to St. Louis for QB Trent Green) - B+
2002 DT Ryan Sims, North Carolina - F
2003 RB Larry Johnson, Penn State - B+
2004 (traded to Detroit for a 2nd and a 4th, which translated to DT Junior Siavii and WR Sammie Parker) - F
2005 LB Derrick Johnson, Texas - B-
2006 DE/OLB Tamba Hali, Penn State - A-
2007 WR Dwayne Bowe, LSU - A
2008 DE/DT Glenn Dorsey, LSU - C
2009 DE Tyson Jackson, LSU - D
2010 SS Eric Berry, Tennessee - A

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-18-2011, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MotherLover

I would agree except for one thing. Sims played in a 4-3, jackson 3-4

Which might make sense, except for the fact that guys playing the same position as Jackson had 7 sacks last year (Gilberry) or 69 tackles (Dorsey).

It's obvious that some guys can impact the game from that position.

Rams Fan · 04-18-2011, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by pr_capone

Trade:

2001 (traded to St. Louis for QB Trent Green) - Undo trade and draft DE Marcus Stroud

You'd really want the Chiefs to draft Stroud instead of trading for Green?

**J Diddy** · 04-18-2011, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Which might make sense, except for the fact that guys playing the same position as Jackson had 7 sacks last year (Gilberry) or 69 tackles (Dorsey).

It's obvious that some guys can impact the game from that position.

I dunno. I'll wait for year 3. I go on record as saying if after the 3rd year he doesn't improve dramatically then ya, f-.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-18-2011, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MotherLover

I dunno. I'll wait for year 3. I go on record as saying if after the 3rd year he doesn't improve dramatically then ya, f-.

That's fair, too.

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'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8009572	Sims did a lot more in his second year than Jackson did. He also excelled at being just a "guy", and he did it at a later pick than Jackson did, and he was thought to be worthy of the pick, not hailed as a universal reach. 34 tackles, 3 sacks, 1 FF, and 1 INT Jackson in 2010: 31 tackles, 1 sack, 0 FF, 0 INT Jackson hasn't just been bad, he's been bad relative to Ryan Sims. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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SAUTO Shit Join Date: Jun 2008 Casino cash: $10039067	Yep hamas. Sims played 16 games in year two. Jackson played in 12 . Posted via Mobile Device
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pr_capone ** SOC & ** YOU Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chiefs Hell Casino cash: $10018214	Trade: 2001 (traded to St. Louis for QB Trent Green) - Undo trade and draft DE Marcus Stroud 2002 DT Ryan Sims, North Carolina - Undo trade with Dallas and draft DT John Henderson 2003 RB Larry Johnson, Penn State - Undo trade with Pitt and draft S Troy Polamalu 2004 (traded to Detroit for a 2nd and a 4th, which translated to DT Junior Siavii and WR Sammie Parker) - Undo trade and draft OT Chris Snee 2005 LB Derrick Johnson, Texas - Draft Aaron Rogers 2006 DE/OLB Tamba Hali, Penn State - Cannot be improved on. 2007 WR Dwayne Bowe, LSU - Cannot be improved on 2008 DE/DT Glenn Dorsey, LSU - Draft Jerod Mayo 2009 DE Tyson Jackson, LSU - Draft Michael Crabtree 2010 SS Eric Berry, Tennessee - Cannot be improved on Grade: 2001 (traded to St. Louis for QB Trent Green) - B+ 2002 DT Ryan Sims, North Carolina - F 2003 RB Larry Johnson, Penn State - B+ 2004 (traded to Detroit for a 2nd and a 4th, which translated to DT Junior Siavii and WR Sammie Parker) - F 2005 LB Derrick Johnson, Texas - B- 2006 DE/OLB Tamba Hali, Penn State - A- 2007 WR Dwayne Bowe, LSU - A 2008 DE/DT Glenn Dorsey, LSU - C 2009 DE Tyson Jackson, LSU - D 2010 SS Eric Berry, Tennessee - A
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